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Hey Lulu.... I really can't say I see much a difference on Toronto stations over the last few years.. I actually feel they are giving her FAIR airplay in keeping with how long it has been since she was front and centre. I actually see her getting more airplay on non country stations(98.1 FM troronto),cross over station 50 years on the air... compared to 95.3 FM Hamilton(biggest country station in the Toronto area).. Go figure...Bob

I don't hear Shania that often here, but I don't listen to the radio all the time either!!! So that may be why!

Hey Angie... I suppose I feel that in general I do not have an issue in Canada with how much airplay she is getting... I would say it is fair when one considers how long she has been gone... I would guess about 3 plays between 6am-9pm on 95.3 country(Hamilton) and about the same on 98.1 Contemp adult(Toronto)... I figure that is in line with where it should be... Bob

I hear her music on in the Cleveland, OH area. Strangely, I hear alot on a soft music channel I click sometimes.

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KingWalter wrote:

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Michigan is a big  place, I don't think you have it all covered lol!!!!

As for Michigan, I have friends who live in Detroit and Shania is played often on country and pop ac stations.

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That's the radio market I live in.  They don't play her nearly as much anymore. 

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You said Michigan and Michigan is way larger than your  market.
She is  played often in the largest  market in Michigan.

Sadly Shania is very rarely played on radio over here these days. When she is it tends to be the the older stuff from COO. I think she is considered by the mainstream over here as a flash in the pan and almost a quirky thing that came and went. I guess Walter will tell me he has friends and family in the UK who tell a different story but that all alot of crap just to justify his argument. Beliieve me Walter I live over here and I know just how Shania is perceived by the mainstream and not her hardcore fans.

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Sadly Shania is very rarely played on radio over here these days. When she is it tends to be the the older stuff from COO. I think she is considered by the mainstream over here as a flash in the pan and almost a quirky thing that came and went. I guess Walter will tell me he has friends and family in the UK who tell a different story but that all alot of crap just to justify his argument. Beliieve me Walter I live over here and I know just how Shania is perceived by the mainstream and not her hardcore fans.

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I  never said I have friends in the U.K., my brother worked as a lawyer in London for a year in 2007.
Who cares what the stupid U.K. media think of Shania. They never liked her anyway and what they say is irrelevant.
Shania's albums always sell well there and she can draw twice as much fans to her concerts than the flash in the pan on the charts now lol!!
Just to prove how wrong your comment is. Shania's COO album was huge in 1998-2000 in the U.K.
She came out with UP in 2002 that wasn't as big as compared to an icon album like COO but still sold okay and had 3 top tens on the U.K. Pop charts and her tour was a huge success all over Europe.
So you make no sense at all. They even ran Shania's biography 2 weeks ago on  a popular British tv station.
So what I say means nothing and what you say means nothing. The facts are that Shania could come out and still sell well and draw great concerts.
Nobody really cares what the media or non shania fans think.

I forgot to do add this. The top wedding songs in the U.K. in 2007 according to dj's across the U.K., FROM THIS MOMENT ON, and YOUR STILL THE ONE  were both in the top 5.


-- Edited by KingWalter at 12:22, 2008-03-20

I heard "That Don't Impress Me Much" on the radio today!!

Wow... Things must be getting pretty bad around here... Even though walter started it,Angie and Walter continue to sound like 4 year olds . I mean really read back and decide for yourself if this is even worth talking about;never mind fighting about. Come on over tells us about a song she heard on the radio   WOW.... Walter, being bored out his brains currently, picks on our british friend and has the nerve to tell him he knows more about Shania's status than someone who actually lives there.... I am starting to think it is getting close to the time for all of us to take a Temporary sabbatical. I say that because in my opinion this whole post and reply has been the most boring,immature things I have ever read on Tommys... I am sure our many guests who are reading it must be saying...Get a life folks... I know that is a somewhat overused line but if it ever applied this is it.... Personally I think talking in the OPEN section about Evil Dicks return visit in an upcoming episode of Big Brother would be alot more intresting...If you think I am joking...I AM NOT........THIS WAS BAD FOLKS.... If you would like I could post an annual rainfall chart comparing New Zealand and Timmins...Bob

It's amazing how Walter is the expert on Shania whatever the country we're talking about. Believe me I followed the Up! period over here closely and tour apart it was all very low key. Up! sold around 700,000 copies and it's highest chart position was number 6 on the album charts. The Greatest Hits also did similar too. Compare that with COO which sold over 3 million copies and spent 13 weeks on and off during 1999 at number 1 on the UK album charts. You're spot on about the media treating her bad but they did in the COO period too.

I just don't see how she will fit in with the pop scene if she does come back. I suppose she could do the currently fashionable thing and get Timbaland to produce a record for her. Even Madonna is jumping on that bandwagon now.The problem with Mutt's production style is that it's very dated for today's pop. The guy still seems to think it's the 1980's. It worked for COO but it won't work anymore. Shania should go back to her roots and make a low key minamal country album and forget about trying to seel millions of copies. The problem is can Mutt produce an album like that?

I feel pretty much the same as you boys, although I think cheeky poking fun at men is still in with a lot of female singers. I still think Shania will go a different direction this time lyrically and it won't be in that tone as before. Everything else I concur with.

Ok Walter if you want another rehash of COO and Up! so be it. I just think it would be nice if Shania would stand up to Mutt and tell him that she wants to try something different. I just feel songs about wishing I could grow a beard and throwing water over her boyfriend and so on don't do her justice. The formula only works for so long, look at Def Leopard and how they got strangled by Mutt's obsession with sales and cheesy lyrics.

If she has all these fans in the UK that you say, then she could still put out a more laidback record and they would still stick with her. It doesn't have to be a country album just a more adult record. Maybe an AOR album would be more fitting for her age and her fans ages too. I just feels she's too old and talented for bubble gum pop.

Oh man... This is getting WAY to deep for me... Pesonally I want country.. I can see it right now..... ACM female vocalist of the year... The nominations are....Faith Hill,LeanRimes,Martina Mcbride,Carrie Underwood,Shania Twain...... And the Winner is  SHANIA TWAIN(As faith screams WHHHHHHHHHHAAAT)

I know.... You would almost think I knew a bit about country music but at least in my opinion, country is just sitting waiting for someone to really take charge. I kinda think Shania might just fit the bill and that is where I would hope she focus' on.... Being honest, do you not think that you agree that things just aren't the same without her.. So maybe you drift trying to find that artist to fill the void but just can't seem to... Well at least that's where I sit.... Bob

Me too..Bob

2ndAmendment, if my memory serves me right, Shania has stated several times that the awards really don't matter to her. What she loves the most is the songwriting and the reaction from the fans. I could be wrong, but I truly don't think Shania cares all that much whether or not she wins an award. In my opinion, she wins every single time someone listens to even one of her songs! Because she's just the best!

Bob, don't get me wrong. I think we all wish Shania got more awards, because she definitely deserves them all! I'm just saying I don't think it matters a whole lot to Shania.

Yes 2ndAmendment, Shania is a gem and does show nothing but joy for those who do win. I think it is a shame though that the politics in Nashville do continue. No doubt Shania has been robbed of awards by them. Mainly FVOY and with the UP tour she was not even nominated for ETOY let alone FVOY. As for her next cd. For sure the album will be from a female point of view. Personally I love how her sense of humour comes out in her songs. Yes, I can hardly wait for her next cd.

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Yes 2ndAmendment, Shania is a gem and does show nothing but joy for those who do win. I think it is a shame though that the politics in Nashville do continue. No doubt Shania has been robbed of awards by them. Mainly FVOY and with the UP tour she was not even nominated for ETOY let alone FVOY. As for her next cd. For sure the album will be from a female point of view. Personally I love how her sense of humour comes out in her songs. Yes, I can hardly wait for her next cd.

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I agree 100% wholeheartedly.  Shania is true to the core and its a pleasure to witness her reactions at award shows and how delighted and glowing she looks.  It's also a real shame of the FVOY empty handedness or the lack of even a nomination for EOTY during UP.  She was by far the top entertainer among that all male category.  The politics is sickening; and lastly her sense of humor is wonderful lyrically and I can't wait for the next cd.  Any guy who thinks Shania is bashing men has no sense of humor whatsoever and totally misinterprets this fine lady.

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OK... Folks... Now...... I know as a Canadian I have to go a bit Easy here. I agree with what you are saying about Shania getting jerked around at the awards show.... BUT...In Canada...The Chicks are HUGE.... I am a HUGE Natalie Maines fan....Forget about the Bush Line... I am talking about pure raw talent. Personally I feel that last year when they won an unheard of 5 Grammys in one night after being totally ignored by the country worlds awards shows... Well lets just say that not even Shania had it put to here that bad by the country awards shows. The really ironic thing is the chicks actually do COUNTRY...More than I can say for all those so called country award winners who are FAR from country...Bob

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The 5 grammy wins by the chicks in 2007 was totally irrelevant, it was all political. They wouldn't even of won on grammy in the main category if it wasn't for the liberal grammy votes. It was a political statement and the chicks were used as pawns.
And besides that, the chicks have always  been jealous of Shania's global fanbase and popularity. They have bashed Shania in the press and given her the cold shoulder.

You know Bob, this time Walter is 100% correct in my opinion. A lot of people felt that way as well. The Chicks were just pawns and the liberal Grammy posse threw a sweep towards the Chicks and had nothing to do with music. The fact Shania hasn't won a Grammy either since before the millennium is a sign of the times as well.

I gave the Chicks the benefit of the doubt many months, but after the feud with Toby and Natalie's persistent arrogance, I lost all respect for them. (Not forgetting Shania and Toby are friends) The final nail in the coffin was when someone shared with me the transcript of when the Chicks were on the Howard Stern Show. Disgusting and absurd! They are not in the same class as Shania.

Walter is also right that they envied Shania's attention. Natalie said something along the lines that Faith is the pretty one, Shania is the hot one, but we're the talented ones. She also compared her songwriter better than Shania's and I saw the way they gave the cold shoulder to Shania when she presented them the 2000 EOTY Award. And as we had been saying about Shaia's nature, Shania was ecstatic and so happy for them. She is a fan of their talent but the feelings are not mutual.

I just had to get that off my chest.

I have to agree with the others here Bob sorry to say. I am not a Natalie Maines fan. Everyone who watched witnessed her cold shoulder to Shania when she gave them the EOTY award. Natalie has a very high opinion of herself and that mouth of hers will always get her into trouble. What did Sara Evans have to say about Shania. Did she diss her too? If she did thats too bad. One thing about Shania, and something that I greatly respect is you won't catch her saying anything bad about anyone. As for the chicks being brave about their comments and standing by them. They had the whole support of the music industry behind them. Natalie could not recant her comments for those reasons alone. For sure they had all awards in the bag grammy night. I did not think they deserved it as their last cd was just not as good as the others. I own the other two. I am curious though as to what the chicks will come up with next. I have often wondered if the other two ever got mad at Natalie over her comments. Anyway Shania sits at the top of the heap in my book. She has a lot of dignity and class. She is a good role model for all young people really. I can't wait till her next cd.

I agree fully lulu. That's the ultimate truth.

As for Toby, he is a nut but he was the one who swallowed his pride and realized the feud was pointless. He no longer says a word about it yet Natalie still holds her nose up. And I know she rolls her eyes about Shania all the time and I never support or respect people who do publicity stunts like Madonna or when people like Natalie go on Howard Stern to talk trashy. I would be shocked and disappointed if Shania ever did that. She's much better than that. Obviously the Chicks we catering to a new audience.

Their last album was all hype and not very good. I own "Wide Open Spaces" and I do still think they are talented, but I can't get by the fact of all their nonsense to listen anymore. It collects dust. No more from me.

As for Sara and notice a little envious demeanor from her of Shania, but I think she has enough respect for Shania not to be rude in anyway. After all they got together during the 2007 ACM Awards for a photo opp and maybe Shania's charm won over Sara some that day.

I think in the past Shania showed support to the CCMAs plenty making many appearances but just in recent times hasn't showed up (2003) to be exact. Not sure why the big drought, but we all know Shania hasn't done too many award shows in general over the last five years. Different behavior these days. At least it was nice to see her present Sylvia Tyson to the Canadian Country Music Hall of Fame.

Indeed, it has been a fair and appreciative discussion Bob.

-- Edited by 2ndAmendment at 22:54, 2008-03-26

I haven't heard Shania on the radio here in ages.

I need to move!