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PurplePeopleEater · Guru

RE: SHANIA AND MUTT SPLIT!

Tommy · Guru

It was stated in an article. I forget which one. Maybe someone remembers.

kelc317 · Guru

PurplePeopleEater wrote:

Why are some assuming the other woman was not named?

Mutt is supposed to have said that Shania didn't name her in the divorce papers, thats comes from some rag that also said Mutt has no problems with shania and Fred.It was right after Shania and Fred were in NY

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-- Edited by kelc317 at 15:42, 2008-12-30

kelc317 · Guru

Tommy wrote:

It was stated in an article. I forget which one. Maybe someone remembers.

I believe it was the National Enquirer,i still doubt Mutt even talked to them

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Tonto · Guru

You say Shania didn't throw Marie Ann and Mutt under the bus but if you believe that gossip then why not the National Enquirer? I mean according the the article in People that I think you are referring to she didn't throw them under the bus directly but people close to her did. That article made it sound like Shania did it in a devious round about way. Like she didn't want to do the dirty work herself but wanted to make sure the real villian was known. I'm not blaming or dissing her for it but I don't believe she told it so it would get out. She was hurt and confused and angry and probably very irrational and highly emotional. Whatever the reasons I'm sure in time hopefully all the wounds will heal for Eja's sake.

kelc317 · Guru

People is by far more reliable than the National Enquirer,and i read somewhere that People would never had printed anything about the affair if they didn't have a very good source.And Mutt doesn't do interviews he called People and denied the affair and i think that was his first interview in about 10 years.And Shania did throw mutt under the bus thats why i don't believe they were split for a long time.

-- Edited by kelc317 at 16:16, 2008-12-30

EveryBodyLovesKevy · Guru

Tonto wrote:

You say Shania didn't throw Marie Ann and Mutt under the bus but if you believe that gossip then why not the National Enquirer? I mean according the the article in People that I think you are referring to she didn't throw them under the bus directly but people close to her did. That article made it sound like Shania did it in a devious round about way. Like she didn't want to do the dirty work herself but wanted to make sure the real villian was known. I'm not blaming or dissing her for it but I don't believe she told it so it would get out. She was hurt and confused and angry and probably very irrational and highly emotional. Whatever the reasons I'm sure in time hopefully all the wounds will heal for Eja's sake.

What wounds? We dont' even know� what really went on.
As far as I am concerned we can take every quote by so called pals of Shania in magazines out the window. They people ready to give quotes at any time to any magazine probably don't even know her well or haven't talked to her in years.
The only thing we know is that they seperated and could be divorced already and it could of been mutual.
Let me put it this way, if Mutt Lange has anything at all to do with her new album then we have been fed a bunch of bull by media and magazines and socalled pals of Shania.
It is best not to blame Mutt for anything since it may be Shania who wanted to seperate first. We just don't know.

EveryBodyLovesKevy · Guru

kelc317 wrote:

People is by far more reliable than the National Enquirer,and i read somewhere that People would never had printed anything about the affair if they didn't have a very good source.And Mutt doesn't do interviews he called People and denied the affair and i think that was his first interview in about 10 years.And Shania did throw mutt under the bus thats why i don't believe they were split for a long time.

-- Edited by kelc317 at 16:16, 2008-12-30

Yes people is more reliable but they have their own agenda too and only take one side.
As for Mutt, Mutt didn't give national enquirer an interview, they came to the place he was staying and waited for him to come outside and asked a few questions. That is a big difference. He didn't� call anyone,National enquirer were waiting for him as he was leaving to pick up Eja from school.

kelc317 · Guru

EveryBodyLovesKevy wrote:

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Tonto wrote:

You say Shania didn't throw Marie Ann and Mutt under the bus but if you believe that gossip then why not the National Enquirer? I mean according the the article in People that I think you are referring to she didn't throw them under the bus directly but people close to her did. That article made it sound like Shania did it in a devious round about way. Like she didn't want to do the dirty work herself but wanted to make sure the real villian was known. I'm not blaming or dissing her for it but I don't believe she told it so it would get out. She was hurt and confused and angry and probably very irrational and highly emotional. Whatever the reasons I'm sure in time hopefully all the wounds will heal for Eja's sake.

What wounds? We dont' even know� what really went on.
As far as I am concerned we can take every quote by so called pals of Shania in magazines out the window. They people ready to give quotes at any time to any magazine probably don't even know her well or haven't talked to her in years.
The only thing we know is that they seperated and could be divorced already and it could of been mutual.
Let me put it this way, if Mutt Lange has anything at all to do with her new album then we have been fed a bunch of bull by media and magazines and socalled pals of Shania.
It is best not to blame Mutt for anything since it may be Shania who wanted to seperate first. We just don't know.
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But kevy if Shania wanted out and Mutt wasn't going to piss and moan about it, why did Shania release the statement in May, why not just say we grew apart and will remain friends

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EveryBodyLovesKevy · Guru

kelc317 wrote:

EveryBodyLovesKevy wrote:

Tonto wrote:

You say Shania didn't throw Marie Ann and Mutt under the bus but if you believe that gossip then why not the National Enquirer? I mean according the the article in People that I think you are referring to she didn't throw them under the bus directly but people close to her did. That article made it sound like Shania did it in a devious round about way. Like she didn't want to do the dirty work herself but wanted to make sure the real villian was known. I'm not blaming or dissing her for it but I don't believe she told it so it would get out. She was hurt and confused and angry and probably very irrational and highly emotional. Whatever the reasons I'm sure in time hopefully all the wounds will heal for Eja's sake.

What wounds? We dont' even know� what really went on.
As far as I am concerned we can take every quote by so called pals of Shania in magazines out the window. They people ready to give quotes at any time to any magazine probably don't even know her well or haven't talked to her in years.
The only thing we know is that they seperated and could be divorced already and it could of been mutual.
Let me put it this way, if Mutt Lange has anything at all to do with her new album then we have been fed a bunch of bull by media and magazines and socalled pals of Shania.
It is best not to blame Mutt for anything since it may be Shania who wanted to seperate first. We just don't know.

But kevy if Shania wanted out and Mutt wasn't going to piss and moan about it, why did Shania release the statement in May, why not just say we grew apart and will remain friends

I really didn't want to get into this again but I believe it was orchestrated to make Shania out as the victim and then she makes this huge comeback with everyone on her side including the public.
If she just said it was growing apart then it would look like she was dumping the old guy because she didn't need him anymore.
I do believe they grew apart long ago and the only thing they had in common was music.I also believe Shania wanted a new direction in her music and that was a big cause of strife.
If Mutt has anything at all to do with this album it will be the way Shania wants it to sound.
I believe that they will still have a musical partnership in the future whether it is with this album or down the road.

Tonto · Guru

Kevy,
I do agree that they could have grown apart years ago but even if they did with all the backlash and rumors in the media it would still cause hurt and pain no matter how long they've been apart and as for Shania using this to gain the support of the public that's the bs.
She doesn't need to play on anyone's sympathies because her music is what people want and she has proven time and time again that she's got what it takes and is the best ever at what she does. I don't care whether or not she works with Mutt again it doesn't matter as long as she's happy and making music I will be happy and I hope that they can become friends because I'm sure that would help with Eja.

EveryBodyLovesKevy · Guru

Tonto wrote:

Kevy,
I do agree that they could have grown apart years ago but even if they did with all the backlash and rumors in the media it would still cause hurt and pain no matter how long they've been apart and as for Shania using this to gain the support of the public that's the bs.
She doesn't need to play on anyone's sympathies because her music is what people want and she has proven time and time again that she's got what it takes and is the best ever at what she does. I don't care whether or not she works with Mutt again it doesn't matter as long as she's happy and making music I will be happy and I hope that they can become friends because I'm sure that would help with Eja.

Well I think they are very good friends still and always will be.
Mutt's exact quotes to people magazine on June 6th was" we will remain very good friends"
So that was just another hint to me that this was mutual and they split long ago.
What will all those fans bashing Mutt say if Mutt is producing her new album? Will they rethink that maybe they don't know what really went on?
We� have not heard one word from Shania on the actual situation. What if she says in her first interview that they are very good friends and all that as said in the magazines was totally garbage the last 7 months.

Tonto · Guru

Well Kevy,
It doesn't matter how long ago they decided to split as far as I'm concerned and I have not been Mutt bashing as you call it because I believe that it does no good. No matter what happened the top priority should be Eja. The adults can handle this it's him they need to worry about and remaining friends no matter what happened is the best solution for him.

kelc317 · Guru

i Guess Kevy we will just have to agree that we disagree.I just don't think that if Shania and Mutt both released statements saying that they grew apart and will remain friends people were going to criticize her for that.And the statement she release in May makes me believe she was very hurt.Now i agree 100% if Mutts her producer than we know nothing about what really happened.As far as remaining friends for Eja's sake, they only have to be civil to each other and not put their son in the middle.Most relationships that end this way the couple doesn't remain friends.

2ndAmendment · Guru

Very true indeed. Good points.

Tommy · Guru

Shania Twain's separation in May from music producer Robert 'Mutt' Lange could also land the country singer in divorce court next year.

http://www.etonline.com/news/2008/12/69252/

EveryBodyLovesKevy · Guru

Tommy wrote:

Shania Twain's separation in May from music producer Robert 'Mutt' Lange could also land the country singer in divorce court next year.

http://www.etonline.com/news/2008/12/69252/

As usual ET is about 7 months behind and know little to know facts about Shania's situation.
there ain't going to be any divorce court and as far as we know everything has been worked out long ago

twain2country · Guru

I agree that everything has been worked out already and�ET are�slow.

UpUpUp · Guru

EveryBodyLovesKevy wrote:

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Tommy wrote:

Shania Twain's separation in May from music producer Robert 'Mutt' Lange could also land the country singer in divorce court next year.

http://www.etonline.com/news/2008/12/69252/

As usual ET is about 7 months behind
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It's a "year-end" story about the things that happened in 2008.� Looking at the calendar, I'd say they're right on time for a year-end story.

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kelc317 · Guru

well upup i think you have a point there

chaosinc · Senior Member

Let's see kevy, if your wife, if you're married,screwed around on you with your supposedly best friend, you think you could still be friends? If so, you live in a very small world!!! Where�has it said they're still friends or working together! show me, I'd like to read or see an article where it says, or Shania has said anything about freindship, personally or professionally!!!!!!!!!!��

EveryBodyLovesKevy · Guru

chaosinc wrote:

Let's see kevy, if your wife, if you're married,screwed around on you with your supposedly best friend, you think you could still be friends? If so, you live in a very small world!!! Where�has it said they're still friends or working together! show me, I'd like to read or see an article where it says, or Shania has said anything about freindship, personally or professionally!!!!!!!!!!��

Nah, they will be friends and I think Shania will confirm that with her first interview.
You dont' know the real situation and what went on and you don't know if it was a mutual split or not.
In fact we really know nothing for sure. but I am willing to bet that they will be good friends and work on music in the future if not this album even.

twain2country · Guru

14. Shania Twain and Mutt Lange Split

Entirely unexpected was the news that Shania Twain and her husband of 15 years Mutt Lange were ending their relationship. Lange, who has produced some of rocks biggest albums, worked extensively with Twain throughout her career and was largely responsible for helping the Canadian singer mold her sound into one that would make her one of the best selling country artists of all time.

The couple, who lived in semi-seclusion in Europe, had kept mostly out of the public eye since 2002s Up!, Twains most recent studio album (which has sold more than 11,000,000 copies to date).

Twain was met with a standing ovation when she appeared at Novembers CMA Awards to present Entertainer Of The Year.

http://www.the9513.com/the-year-in-review-top-20-country-music-news-stories-of-2008/

Tommy · Guru

Mutt, Twain derail

Couple separates after 14 years

By JOE WARMINGTON, Sun Media

Last Updated: 31st December 2008, 5:39pm

This story was first published in the Toronto Sun on Friday, May 16, 2008

Whose bed has Mutt Lange's boots been under?

Not under Shania Twain's anymore!

Yes, the news broke yesterday that the 42-year-old Canadian songbird and her superstar producer husband of 14 years, Robert John "Mutt" Lange, 59, are splitsville.

As the pride of Timmins once warned: "if you're not in it for love, I'm out of here!" and also sang "any man of mine better be proud of me, even when I'm ugly he still better love me, and I can be late for a date that's fine, but he better be on time!"

What happened, Mutt? Late for a date? Not in it for love anymore? Don't Impress her Much?

Perhaps No One Needs to Know!

Yes, details of this breakup are just as secret as details of their marriage, which friends and music insiders have always "scratched their heads about."

Whatever happened, it was very clear yesterday though that Lange was no longer Still the One!

"This is a private matter and there will be no further comment at this time," Tyson Parker of Universal Music told The Canadian Press.

The approach doesn't shock 680 Entertainment editor Gloria Martin who saw a young and aspiring Eilleen Regina Edwards perform on the stage at Deerhurst Resort in Huntsville in the late 1980s.

"Dignity" is the word Martin called the couple's approach to this separation. "This is so huge because they always seemed so solid. They set a high standard for the entertainment industry. There was no gossip. What do you know about them? Nothing."

Or certainly very little. It is known that they had homes in Switzerland and New Zealand and together have a 6-year-old son named Eja -- pronounced Asia.

No matter what happens, her story is stuff of legend -- coming from poverty and singing her way to the top. Throughout the years, her charitable nature has been well documented, along with her concern for the plight of children. This story is the most controversy she has been involved in since news that the aboriginal man who died with her mother in a car crash was in fact not her biological father -- a non-native.

One thing about Shania, whom I have dealt with just a few times, is she is also professional, cordial and classy. Like Wayne Gretzky or Celine Dion, her journey is enjoyed by a lot of her fellow Canadians.

The Sun's John White captured an image of Twain shopping on Bloor St. in Yorkville last September and several autograph hounds told me they have seen Shania in Toronto recently and many believe she may have a penthouse suite in Yorkville, although it has not been confirmed. She also has a sister living in Huntsville -- not far from Deerhurst Resort where she once graced the stage of their popular music show and where she was married to Lange on Dec. 28, 1993.

But rumours of a fractured marriage, complete with separate bedrooms, had surfaced over the years as whispers -- but never with any backup. Some of that stemmed from the fact that Twain and Lange were rarely ever seen together and that it was widely known that Lange had purchased as many pictures of himself as he could.

Ironically, I was actually within feet of them at FanFare in 1993 in Nashville, Tenn., where I believe they met -- either on or just outside of Billy Ray Cyrus' tour bus. "I remember meeting Mutt Lange with Bryan Adams on my bus," Cyrus, then of Mercury Records, once told me. "I remember Mutt saying 'who's that?' " It was Canada's own Shania Twain, a new signee with Mercury who went on to be one of the biggest selling female artists of all time.

The two -- Lange and Twain -- combined for some incredible success and tremendous music, too, with countless album sales, awards and sold-out concert tours to go with Lange's already monumental success of producing such monster acts as Def Leppard, Bryan Adams, AC/DC, Foreigner and The Cars. "Shania was like a raw diamond in the rough and he was like the jeweller," Toronto entertainment producer Gene Mascardelli said. "Together, they created the crown jewel of the country music and pop scene."

But some close to Twain have long cast a dubious eye about Lange's "hyper controlling nature" on her personal life and career and called him a Svengali-like presence in her life. A 2002 Time magazine feature story talked how since "meeting Lange, Twain has become a strict vegetarian and a devotee of Sant Mat, a strain of Sikh mysticism that advocates hours of daily meditation, abstinence from sex and alcohol, and copious journal-keeping as the path to self-realization."

That reality, it said in Time, had some, including Twain's brother Darryl, concluding that she has become, as he put it in a 2000 magazine interview, "a robot."

But that Time piece also addressed the control rumblings by describing the couple talking on the cellphone and appearing to "communicate like husband and wife, not Svengali and subject."

One music industry producer told me last night their relationship in his view was "in many ways not a lot different to what Bobby Brown was at times to Whitney Houston -- part of the solution but also part of the problem."

Of course, there was certainly no problem selling records for Twain and Lange. Together, they have sold more than 65 million. It's unknown where she will go next musically or even if they will still work together. Mascardelli says it won't stop her either way. "All of the great teams break up -- Lennon and McCartney, Martin and Lewis. She'll be fine. And so will he."

But as of last night, no one knew where Twain actually was -- although there are some who believe she could be in Toronto or nearby. If it's true that a single Shania is here in town, Scrawler has just one thing to say.

Come on Over!

http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2008/12/31/7891481.html

Tonto · Guru

Found this on Hello Canada website!

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Tommy · Guru

Mountain haven

..... Stephanie Pursley is walking on water but this is no divine trick. She's on the frozen Diamond Lake, in the mountainous shadows of the Southern Alps near the pretty ski town of Wanaka.

Beyond Diamond Lake, Pursley points out, is a left-hand turn that takes you deeper into the mountains and to singer Shania Twain's $NZ21.4 million ($17 million), 24,000-hectare ranch. Twain is divorcing music-producer husband Robert "Mutt" Lange after 14 years of marriage and the talk in town, where she sometimes sips coffee incognito, is that he'll get the ranch, despite it being her passion.

http://www.theage.com.au/travel/accommodation-reviews/mountain-haven-20090805-e9oa.html

twain2country · Guru

9 Celebs Who Survived Being Cheated On

These humiliated spouses came out looking like good guys after their significant others strayed.

by Sara Brady

Shania Twain: Seriously, who cheats on Shania Twain?! She's a goddess. And she's from the back woods of Canada, so we're pretty sure girlfriend knows her way around various weapons. But her husband of fourteen years, producer Robert "Mutt" Lange, allegedly had an affair with one of Shania's best friends, the family's assistant, Marie-Anne Thiébaud. "She was devastated," a friend of Shania's told People. "This isn't just about her—it's her career, her life, her child, someone she thought was a close friend: Everything gets pulled out from underneath her." Shania has been out of the spotlight, recording her next album and raising her eight-year-old son, but we're confident she'll rebound from this. Shania Twain To Marry? Tyra Too?

http://www.yourtango.com/200936444/9-celebs-who-survived-getting-cheated

Tommy · Guru

If Elin Nordegren can't hold it down...

The reasons for the Tiger Woods story taking off are fairly obvious. Take the world's most seemingly super-human athlete with a perfect life, and introduce a level of drama heretofor reserved for a trailer park couple bickering. Oh how the mighty have fallen and so forth and etcetera.

I think one of the big reasons this has really succeeded at penetrating the consciousness of the non-sports mainstream is because it's a seemingly good husband cheating on the mother of his two children. And what's more, his wife is still attractive. I think women are paying attention to this story because they're thinking "if it can happen to a woman as drop-dead gorgeous as that, why can't it happen to me?"

I'm not a cheater, myself. I value a simple, peaceful life without drama and complication more than I do the opportunity to sew my wild oats. But as an interested observer, I can't help but notice that physical attractiveness does not seem to be a factor in whether or not a woman is cheated on. Consider these celebrity examples:

i) Elizabeth Hurley

It's hard to believe that it's been nearly a decade and a half, but who can forget the scandal surrounding Hugh Grant's solicitation of prostitutes while dating model Elizabeth Hurley? She stuck with him for another five years after that incident, until they ultimately divorced.

ii) Halle Berry

Halle's second marriage to musician Eric Benet ended after just four years. It was never that big of a scandal, but after they broke up Benet admitted to infidelities and even went so far as to check into a sex addict rehab clinic. Really, dude? I'd think being married to Halle Berry would be the best possible place for a sex addict.

iii) Shania Twain

Singer Shania Twain and husband Robert Lange broke up after 14 years of marriage and one kid. Why? Ol' "Mutt" Lange was shtupping the couple's secretary. He didn't even find some globe-trotting hottie, he just went after the chick he saw every day. Yeesh.

iv) Sienna Miller

To be honest, I never really thought Sienna Miller was that talented, though she made great eye-candy in G.I. Joe. That doesn't really excuse the fact that Jude Law cheated on her with the nanny. I mean, yeah, he's Jude Law, but the nanny? Really? You're supposed to get the nanny specifically so you have time to have sex with your wife, you idiot.

v) Christie Brinkley

Peter Cook cheated on his 42-year-old former Playboy bunny wife for an 18-year-old intern at his architecture firm. If you've ever spoken to, let aloned bedded, an 18-year-old intern, you'll know what a short-sighted moron Peter Cook is.

You know, I think I'm coming away from this blog with a new-found appreciation for the tenuous position of women married to celebrity men. When they're not off sleeping with globe-trotting nightclub managers, they're sleeping with the hired help. And if these world-renowned hotties can't hold it down, what chance does the rest of womankind have? I'm starting to see why this is so big on TMZ...

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http://www.opensports.com/community/user/blog_entry/561/f854a3b1-caa9-4a99-971b-5c4335ba747d

PurplePeopleEater · Guru

Mama mia!

kay1017us · Veteran Member

It irks me when the media make a big deal out of someone cheating on a physically beautiful woman/handsome man. Does this mean that only non-beautiful people are supposed to be cheated on?

We have no clue what the physically beautiful person's personality or how they are in real life. The only thing we see is the image that the person chooses to project to us.

Also, just because a person is beautiful on the outside, doesn't make them beautiful on the inside.

I'll get off my soapbox!

Tonto · Guru

Well said on your soapbox though!!!

Warmest regards as always,
Tonto

Butters · Guru

kay1017us wrote:

It irks me when the media make a big deal out of someone cheating on a physically beautiful woman/handsome man. Does this mean that only non-beautiful people are supposed to be cheated on?

We have no clue what the physically beautiful person's personality or how they are in real life. The only thing we see is the image that the person chooses to project to us.

Also, just because a person is beautiful on the outside, doesn't make them beautiful on the inside.

I'll get off my soapbox!

Amen! Finally a post filled with logic!

I totally agree. And that is why all the "fans" saying how could Mutt cheat because Shania is pretty, blah, blah, blah......like it would have been better if she was not pretty!

A cheater will cheat no matter what. The bottom line is that nobody should cheat.

IMO a cheater is the lowest scum on earth. That level of disrepect towards your spouse/boyfriend/girlfriend is not something one should forgive.

EveryBodyLovesKevy · Guru

It is in mens blood to cheat, it doesn't make us bad people.
What man wants to sleep with the same woman for life. There is nothing normal about that.
You can love a woman but yet sleep with hundreds to satisfy the need.
It doesn't make you a bad person or scum.
Since when is it written in stone that you should have sex with the same woman forever.
To me there is something not normal about having the same partner for life.
That is just my opinion.

Tommy · Guru

EveryBodyLovesKevy wrote:

It is in mens blood to cheat, it doesn't make us bad people.
What man wants to sleep with the same woman for life. There is nothing normal about that.
You can love a woman but yet sleep with hundreds to satisfy the need.
It doesn't make you a bad person or scum.
Since when is it written in stone that you should have sex with the same woman forever.
To me there is something not normal about having the same partner for life.
That is just my opinion.

Unbelieveable!

Butters · Guru

EveryBodyLovesKevy wrote:

It is in mens blood to cheat, it doesn't make us bad people.
What man wants to sleep with the same woman for life. There is nothing normal about that.
You can love a woman but yet sleep with hundreds to satisfy the need.
It doesn't make you a bad person or scum.
Since when is it written in stone that you should have sex with the same woman forever.
To me there is something not normal about having the same partner for life.
That is just my opinion.

I feel sorry for you. In order to have this attitude; you must have deep, deep issues.

EveryBodyLovesKevy · Guru

Butters wrote:

EveryBodyLovesKevy wrote:

It is in mens blood to cheat, it doesn't make us bad people.
What man wants to sleep with the same woman for life. There is nothing normal about that.
You can love a woman but yet sleep with hundreds to satisfy the need.
It doesn't make you a bad person or scum.
Since when is it written in stone that you should have sex with the same woman forever.
To me there is something not normal about having the same partner for life.
That is just my opinion.

I feel sorry for you. In order to have this attitude; you must have deep, deep issues.

Don't feel sorry for me, I love variety and have a great life.
Staying with the same woman for life is dull and men need to satisfy their need.
I don't condone cheating behind anyones back but I like the idea of an open marriage.
What is normal about a man sleeping with the same woman for life.
Men aren't wired that way.

Butters · Guru

Being attracted to other people is natural. The men who stare at pictures of Shania are naturally attracted to her and a decent amount probably fantasize about her. But people in life need to have self-control and if you have a relationship where people care about each other; then you don't get bored. Sure you are always going to find others attactive; but a true adult does not act on those impulses.

And I see nothing wrong with an open marriage/relationship just as long as BOTH parties agree to it.

But in my opinion, men/women who say that they will be bored by the same partner have either not found the right partner or they have deep personal issues that keeps them from bonding with another person.

barebackwarrior · Senior Member

EveryBodyLovesKevy wrote:

Butters wrote:

EveryBodyLovesKevy wrote:

It is in mens blood to cheat, it doesn't make us bad people.
What man wants to sleep with the same woman for life. There is nothing normal about that.
You can love a woman but yet sleep with hundreds to satisfy the need.
It doesn't make you a bad person or scum.
Since when is it written in stone that you should have sex with the same woman forever.
To me there is something not normal about having the same partner for life.
That is just my opinion.

I feel sorry for you. In order to have this attitude; you must have deep, deep issues.

Don't feel sorry for me, I love variety and have a great life.
Staying with the same woman for life is dull and men need to satisfy their need.
I don't condone cheating behind anyones back but I like the idea of an open marriage.
What is normal about a man sleeping with the same woman for life.
Men aren't wired that way.

Tell it brother smile

cause that's the way that it is. Women should do the same too. At least Shania became one of the richest and most famous divorcees in recent times. You can't have it all honey.

STF1 · Senior Member

EveryBodyLovesKevy wrote:

It is in mens blood to cheat, it doesn't make us bad people.
What man wants to sleep with the same woman for life. There is nothing normal about that.
You can love a woman but yet sleep with hundreds to satisfy the need.
It doesn't make you a bad person or scum.
Since when is it written in stone that you should have sex with the same woman forever.
To me there is something not normal about having the same partner for life.
That is just my opinion.

What a joke! I never heard so much garbage, it is not in mens blood to cheat, it is in SOME mens and some womens. You have a funny way of summing up what you see. If you are talking about Mutt and Shania here they were married, its a commitment to be faithful and if someone in a marriage sleeps around then I'd say that it is NOT acceptable. But Kevy we know your standards and I guess some ppl just dont have any...

Tommy · Guru

New Zealand land scooped by Twain's ex

Tommy · Guru

Twain's ex buys more South Island land

Canadian singer Shania Twain's estranged husband is reported to have spent millions buying more prime South Island high country land.

Twain and husband, music producer Mutt Lange, paid $21.4 million to buy Motatapu and Mt Soho Stations near Wanaka five years ago but the marriage has since collapsed

The Herald on Sunday reported Lange has bought 8500ha of adjoining Glencoe Station – it has a capital value of $5.4 million.

The seller, Queenstown developer John Darby, told Mountain Scene newspaper the sale had gone unconditional after Overseas Investment Commission approval.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3179602/Twains-ex-buys-more-South-Island-land

David NZ · Veteran Member

Looks like old Mutt is planning on sticking around here then...

Tommy · Guru

Twain and husband, music producer Mutt Lange, paid $21.4 million to buy Motatapu and Mt Soho Stations near Wanaka five years ago but the marriage has since collapsed.

The Herald on Sunday reported Lange has bought 8500ha of adjoining Glencoe Station, which has a capital value of $5.4 million.

The seller, Queenstown developer John Darby, told Mountain Scene newspaper the sale had gone unconditional after Overseas Investment Commission approval.

"We decided it made good farming sense," Mr Darby told the newspaper.

"We were really concentrating on the front part of the farm [overlooking Arrowtown] and under-utilising the land in the back part."

He expected Lange to extend his merino sheep-farming operation over his new land.

Tommy · Guru

RE: SHANIA AND MUTT SPLIT!

Tommy · Guru

Jun 10th 2010 1:10PM

Shania Twain's Soap Opera Split

See if you can keep this twisted love quadrangle straight: Shania Twain was married to Robert John "Mutt" Lange. They separated when Lange began dating Marie-Anne Thiébaud, Twain's assistant. Then Twain started seeing Frédéric Thiébaud, Marie-Anne's ex-husband.

Confused?

Things should become a little clearer now that Twain and Lange are officially divorced. Two years after separating, the couple's divorce became official this week in Switzerland. After the divorce was complete, country star Twain was spotted dancing with boyfriend Frédéric. And they all lived happily ever after... at least for now.

It seems like we're not the only ones wondering about the Twain/Lange/Thiébaud/Thiébaud affair. You have plenty of questions and we have the answers. Have a question that wasn't answered? Leave a comment and hopefully a fellow AOL searcher can help you out!

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http://hot.aol.com/2010/06/10/shania-twains-soap-opera-split/

mariana · Senior Member

Now that the time spent and you can check because I admire Shania. Again she showed us that despite the divorce and feel the immense pain experienced by this, Shania provided through the difficulties, makes us believe that nothing is impossible. This is what I admire most about Shania Twain her strength, she is unique. We miss you Shania.

Tommy · Guru

Shania Twain and Robert "Mutt" Lange: 12/28/1993

by Lucy Walton | 28 December 2013

Twain was first on Lange’s radar after he heard some of her material, so he made contact and spent hours on the phone talking to her about her work. They finally met six months after this.

Twain married music producer Robert John Lange on 28^th December 1993, who is 17 years her senior. They had non-alcoholic champagne at their Wedding as Lange is teetotal and Lange’s song ‘everything I do’ was also performed on their big day to mark his love for her.

Their son Eja was born on 12^th August 2001.

However on 20^th December 2010 Twain’s manger announced that her and Lange we separating after rumours of Lange having an affair with Twain’s best friend, Marie Anne.

On 9^th June 2010, their divorce was finalized.

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/weddings/shania-twain-364535.html

Tanya · Guru

It's been 10 years! Time flies. confuse

-- Edited by Tanya on Tuesday 15th of May 2018 08:25:11 AM

Tommy · Guru

Inside Shania Twain's bizarre husband-swapping love life as she and best friend SWITCH partners

Her husband cheating on her with her best friend? That don't impress her much

By Emmeline Saunders | The Daily Mirror - UK | June 26, 2018

Shania Twain has opened up about the bizarre soap opera-esque twist that saw her and her best friend swap husbands after an affair rocked her first marriage.

The worldwide country star was happily married to record producer Robert 'Mutt' Lange after they met in June 1993 and wed in December that same year.

They moved to Switzerland from her native Canada and had son Eja together in 2001.

But in 2008, Shania's world was rocked by allegations husband Mutt had been having a secret long-term affair with Shania's best friend, Marie-Anne Thiébaud. The married couple announced they were separating in May of that year, and their divorce was finalised in June 2010.

However, there was more to come - just six months after their marriage officially ended, Shania revealed she was engaged to Swiss Nestle executive Frédéric Thiébaud... the ex-husband of Marie-Anne.

The new couple wasted no time in cementing their relationship, as Fred and his wife had already divorced. Shania tied the knot for the second time on January 1 2011, less than two weeks after the engagement announcement.

And while the situation must have been hurtful and confusing for Shania at the time, she now says she and Fred can look back and laugh.

Speaking to Notebook about her new album Now - dubbed her 'divorce album' thanks to the emotionally raw lyrics - Shania explained: "We've had to laugh at a few things. He'll say, 'Wow, are you still not over that particular detail?!' I have to explain I've got to put it in my music. We're both very open about what we've been through, and not guarded at all."

And while Mutt's affair is now ancient history, Shania says her track Poor Me was "very much about betrayal".

"It was my self-pity moment. The song is the vomit of that feeling," she quipped.

"It's OK to feel sorry for yourself sometimes – it's very satisfying and I'm not going to apologise for it. It's ownership of what you've been through.

"Songwriting is like a diary entry, though sometimes I listen back and think, 'Oh my God, that's way too personal…'"

But with Fred's help, Shania has been able to move through the toughest of times - including the loss of her mum and stepdad in a car crash when she was 22, having surgery on her vocal chords after contracting Lyme disease and worrying that she was going to lose her distinctive voice forever.

She says Fred "makes me feel like a woman" and reveals he loves her less gym-honed figure now she's retired the crop tops of her younger years.

"I've still got abs under the squish, although I hate the texture of my body now. But he says, 'I don't want to cuddle up to a man, I don't want rock-hard muscle.'

"I'm strong still, but there's a softness there now, and he likes it. It makes me feel womanly," she added.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/inside-shania-twains-bizarre-husband-12797170

Tommy · Guru

Tonto wrote:
Hey,
Just found this on MSN also
Country Music's Biggest Controversies
http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/awards/country-musics-biggest-controversies/ss-BBVp1C0

Warmest regards as always,
Tonto

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