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I have a few questions you might be able to help me with. I only started posting on here recently and always avoided messageboards, I guess Im one of those fans who never thought any need to post. When Kevy talked about it I realized only a small percentage of fans use them when Shania has sold so many millions. Then I thought about why more dont use them. I know there are other messageboards out there, the STC centre messageboard is one but ppl seem to not want to use it, I dont understand why if it is an officially run board and free. The fan club has a messageboard and I understand why ppl dont use that, because of problems with the fan club so they dont renew. Then there are other messageboards, like the shaniaforums and the north amercian board. I dont understand who runs these and why they are so popular when they are not official. Are they promoted in some way? Tommy's site I guess is indepenent which is why ppl like it, less restrictions and more freedom. Tommy's site is one of the best I have seen. What I dont understand is why there is not one big official messageboard instead of so many smaller ones which is free.



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i know that the North American On line Fan Club is founded by a fan and they do have some restrictions there,and i really don't like all the free bashing regarding other artists,i mean why is so bad to like other singers besides shania?
as for the Forums,one guy was the creator but he haven't been there for years,i don't think they promote it because i had no idea about it till some fellow fan told me about it in another messageboard.

i guess the only Official board is the Fan Club one but most fans don't like it,too strict moderation there.


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i know that the North American On line Fan Club is founded by a fan and they do have some restrictions there,and i really don't like all the free bashing regarding other artists,i mean why is so bad to like other singers besides shania?
as for the Forums,one guy was the creator but he haven't been there for years,i don't think they promote it because i had no idea about it till some fellow fan told me about it in another messageboard.

i guess the only Official board is the Fan Club one but most fans don't like it,too strict moderation there.



Ithink the ones that Shania is actually connected to are strict about posting gossip and rumors about her personal life. She is very private and so she doesn't want it on the message boards that are closely connected. Also the Myspace and Facebook pages are ran by people for her. It is not actually her but they have contact with someone else who can contact her if needed only under strict circumstances. Rumor is Shania never really visits any of these sites. Her people screen stuff and send her what they think she needs to know which is very limited.
Just my understanding from some of the people who run these sites.
Warmest regards as always,
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Ithink the ones that Shania is actually connected to are strict about posting gossip and rumors about her personal life. She is very private and so she doesn't want it on the message boards that are closely connected. Also the Myspace and Facebook pages are ran by people for her. It is not actually her but they have contact with someone else who can contact her if needed only under strict circumstances. Rumor is Shania never really visits any of these sites. Her people screen stuff and send her what they think she needs to know which is very limited.
Just my understanding from some of the people who run these sites.
Warmest regards as always,
Tonto



I visit a lot of the officialmessage boards for Shania, butbecause the sites related to those are rarely updated, more fanstend to drop by Tommy's sitesite, which if I'm perfectly honest, is the best maintained. That's also the veryreason whymore people post on his MB.The official site moderators don't like paparazzi relatedpics orarticles and as for rumors/gossip, that comes with the territory of being a public figure and you're always going to be written about. But Shania is missing out in a big way, whereas artists like Pink are interactive with their fans through their website(s), she isn't. That communication, no matter how big or small, isimportant.



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I have seen many misstatements about various Shania message boards made here and I am not about to add to the confusion that abounds about the pros and cons of these boards.

I post at several and if any one has a specific question about certain boards please feel free to PM me for my opinion etc.

I might just mention as far as I know Tommy is the only one in charge of this message board and I wonder why certain members PM me about his board and act like this is their board.

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Because they THINK it is their board.

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Thanks for the replies. I dont care for the north american board, as country gal says one owner is happy to put others down very easily, it is all about that owner being in control, but I do read the Shania Forums which seems a good site although I see some ppl here had trouble with that board. It has a lot of members and 4 owners, but is it not official in some way? How can it be so big compared with official boards, who pays for it and who runs it? Adverts pay for it? Ppl look to be using it more than the STC board which is surely more official and endorsed and no adverts?

-- Edited by STF1 on Tuesday 24th of March 2009 10:19:31 PM

-- Edited by STF1 on Tuesday 24th of March 2009 10:20:13 PM

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Thanks for the replies. I dont care for the north american board, as country gal says one owner is happy to put others down very easily, it is all about that owner being in control, but I do read the Shania Forums which seems a good site although I see some ppl here had trouble with that board. It has a lot of members and 4 owners, but is it not official in some way? How can it be so big compared with official boards, who pays for it and who runs it? Adverts pay for it? Ppl look to be using it more than the STC board which is surely more official and endorsed and no adverts?

-- Edited by STF1 on Tuesday 24th of March 2009 10:19:31 PM

-- Edited by STF1 on Tuesday 24th of March 2009 10:20:13 PM



I'm a memeber of the two boards you've mentioned. I find the North American one pretty good although it lacks a sense of fun and is pretty strict. Sad to say the Shania Forums has gone down the pan since I used to post there alot backin the day. It's seems to have lost alot of the members I knew from the time when UP! was out. It seems to have become over run by teenage girls who get upset if you even remotely criticise Shania. I think I'll stick around this board for now, although I do know the irritating Kevy is allowed to post on here.

 



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Because they THINK it is their board.




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Thanks for the replies. I dont care for the north american board, as country gal says one owner is happy to put others down very easily, it is all about that owner being in control, but I do read the Shania Forums which seems a good site although I see some ppl here had trouble with that board. It has a lot of members and 4 owners, but is it not official in some way? How can it be so big compared with official boards, who pays for it and who runs it? Adverts pay for it? Ppl look to be using it more than the STC board which is surely more official and endorsed and no adverts?

-- Edited by STF1 on Tuesday 24th of March 2009 10:19:31 PM

-- Edited by STF1 on Tuesday 24th of March 2009 10:20:13 PM



I'm a memeber of the two boards you've mentioned. I find the North American one pretty good although it lacks a sense of fun and is pretty strict. Sad to say the Shania Forums has gone down the pan since I used to post there alot backin the day. It's seems to have lost alot of the members I knew from the time when UP! was out. It seems to have become over run by teenage girls who get upset if you even remotely criticise Shania. I think I'll stick around this board for now, although I do know the irritating Kevy is allowed to post on here.

 

 



May I ask what is or was your handle at the forums?

 



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Thanks for the replies. I dont care for the north american board, as country gal says one owner is happy to put others down very easily, it is all about that owner being in control, but I do read the Shania Forums which seems a good site although I see some ppl here had trouble with that board. It has a lot of members and 4 owners, but is it not official in some way? How can it be so big compared with official boards, who pays for it and who runs it? Adverts pay for it? Ppl look to be using it more than the STC board which is surely more official and endorsed and no adverts?

-- Edited by STF1 on Tuesday 24th of March 2009 10:19:31 PM

-- Edited by STF1 on Tuesday 24th of March 2009 10:20:13 PM



I'm a memeber of the two boards you've mentioned. I find the North American one pretty good although it lacks a sense of fun and is pretty strict. Sad to say the Shania Forums has gone down the pan since I used to post there alot backin the day. It's seems to have lost alot of the members I knew from the time when UP! was out. It seems to have become over run by teenage girls who get upset if you even remotely criticise Shania. I think I'll stick around this board for now, although I do know the irritating Kevy is allowed to post on here.

 

 



Its funny how it seems everybody knows kevy

 



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lonelyboy wrote:

STF1 wrote:

Thanks for the replies. I dont care for the north american board, as country gal says one owner is happy to put others down very easily, it is all about that owner being in control, but I do read the Shania Forums which seems a good site although I see some ppl here had trouble with that board. It has a lot of members and 4 owners, but is it not official in some way? How can it be so big compared with official boards, who pays for it and who runs it? Adverts pay for it? Ppl look to be using it more than the STC board which is surely more official and endorsed and no adverts?

-- Edited by STF1 on Tuesday 24th of March 2009 10:19:31 PM

-- Edited by STF1 on Tuesday 24th of March 2009 10:20:13 PM



I'm a memeber of the two boards you've mentioned. I find the North American one pretty good although it lacks a sense of fun and is pretty strict. Sad to say the Shania Forums has gone down the pan since I used to post there alot backin the day. It's seems to have lost alot of the members I knew from the time when UP! was out. It seems to have become over run by teenage girls who get upset if you even remotely criticise Shania. I think I'll stick around this board for now, although I do know the irritating Kevy is allowed to post on here.

 



That seems like a strange thing to say, of course her fans are going to get upset if ppl critisize her, what has she done wrong exactly? evileye How was it different when you posted there, was there more bad mouthing? How would that have been better or a good thing? Sorry you dont make any sense.

 



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It makes perfect sense. I'm a Shania fan. That doesn't mean I think everything she does is perfect and above criticism. Why should it? Being a fan shouldn't mean you check your brain or your opinions at the door.

Now its obvious that certain "fans" can go too far in the other direction, but common sense should enable anyone to separate the fans-who-are-not-mindless-shania-zombies from people who just want to cause trouble on a message board.

I'm a Shania fan. I like alot of her music. But, for example, I think the song Juanita is lame. If I got into a discussion saying that I think Juanita is lame at other message boards, I guarantee you that the more rabid "teenage girls who get upset if you even remotely criticise Shania", as lonleyboy says above, would report me to a mod for daring to have an opinion that is different from their own.

Shania is human. She has good qualities, and she has faults, like every human being does. In general, fans should spend more time talking about the good than the bad. That's what being a fan of someone is all about. But they also should not stick their heads in the sand and pretend that she's perfect and faultless. I would guess that Shania herself is creeped out by fans who put her on an artificial pedestal rather than treating her as a real person. Wouldn't you be?

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I dont see how a message board used to be a better place if ppl used to bash Shania and each other, and now it has gone down the pan because that has stopped as Lonelyboy says. Maybe Im not getting what message boards are about but I would say they are places for fans to get together for fun not a place to have bashing go on like Ive seen here, its not very nice, I was close to never posting again after the things ppl said to me when I joined. If he is right and ppl have all left that place since up was out maybe that is because it is a quiet time for Shania and there is less to talk about.

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Well i think upup is right in the since we don't have to think Shania walks on water.But i do think people should also remember she is a human being and be respectful.Plus there is only one fan on this site that i think goes way over the top when he criticizes Shania.

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I dont see how a message board used to be a better place if ppl used to bash Shania and each other, and now it has gone down the pan because that has stopped as Lonelyboy says. Maybe Im not getting what message boards are about but I would say they are places for fans to get together for fun not a place to have bashing go on like Ive seen here, its not very nice, I was close to never posting again after the things ppl said to me when I joined. If he is right and ppl have all left that place since up was out maybe that is because it is a quiet time for Shania and there is less to talk about.



It has been quiet time for many years already. A very small percentage of maybe 1% of buying public actually go to message boards.
The other 99% don't care if Shania has new music or not and think she is retired already.
And fans have every right to give their opinion good or bad.
There is nothing good to talk about Shania in the last 6 years so why sugar coat it.
I will always be a fan of her music but I am not blind and tell it like it is.

 



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Well i think upup is right in the since we don't have to think Shania walks on water.But i do think people should also remember she is a human being and be respectful.Plus there is only one fan on this site that i think goes way over the top when he criticizes Shania.



I think Shania fans have been more than patient and respectful of Shania for over 14 years, even when she ingores them all the time.
It is Shania who should return the respect once in awhile.
And innocent comments on a message board about Shania by her fans are allowed.
You have no right to judge who is over the line or not.
Shania has been treated with the utmost respect and admiration from her fans including me for over a decade. But she has spent years ignoring the fans and telling them nothing.
Shania is the one who owes respect to her fans this time.
Without them she would be scraping by some resort and playing for tips.

 



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kelc317 wrote:

Well i think upup is right in the since we don't have to think Shania walks on water.But i do think people should also remember she is a human being and be respectful.Plus there is only one fan on this site that i think goes way over the top when he criticizes Shania.



I think Shania fans have been more than patient and respectful of Shania for over 14 years, even when she ingores them all the time.
It is Shania who should return the respect once in awhile.
And innocent comments on a message board about Shania by her fans are allowed.
You have no right to judge who is over the line or not.
Shania has been treated with the utmost respect and admiration from her fans including me for over a decade. But she has spent years ignoring the fans and telling them nothing.
Shania is the one who owes respect to her fans this time.
Without them she would be scraping by some resort and playing for tips.

 

 



So what your saying is, you have a right to judge Shania, but i don't have a right to judge you.Now do you want to go into one of your rants about ME being obessed with your posts LOL

 



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You have 100% right to judge me. We are all judged.
And I have 100% right to respond, that is what a democratic society is about.
I won't go on any rant. I just came here to respond to the comment you indirectly made about me going over the top.

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This has all gone in a strange direction, not really what I intended with the thread but anyhow. Not exactly sure why all the arguing, but Kevy you did say "You have no right to judge who is over the line or not." and then you just said "You have 100% right to judge me. We are all judged."

I just wanted to know about the varios message boards and see who was responsible for them and which ones were better than others.

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Well at least you don't close threads like Shania forums. Only within the last few days said Forum deemed a "Shania sexiest pics" thread as too controversial because a younger female fan or two complained to the mod over there. I know for a fact that back in the day when Tommy was a member there and I posted as well that a thread like that would have run for dozens of pages.

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Isn't a thead kind of like a conversation,Its bound to change and evolve into other subjects?or is that coincided hijacking a thread?


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Well at least you don't close threads like Shania forums. Only within the last few days said Forum deemed a "Shania sexiest pics" thread as too controversial because a younger female fan or two complained to the mod over there. I know for a fact that back in the day when Tommy was a member there and I posted as well that a thread like that would have run for dozens of pages.



Did you get banned from there?

 



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Nope, not at all. I've just not posted there for a while as I find the place a shadow of it's former self. I'm not alone as i've shared many messages with many old timers from there who have given up on the place rather than Shania.

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We are pleased to now offer a free slice of pizza with each new membership



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Nope, not at all. I've just not posted there for a while as I find the place a shadow of it's former self. I'm not alone as i've shared many messages with many old timers from there who have given up on the place rather than Shania.




What did you say was your handle there?



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Just to get this back on track, there have been a few "problems" and I would like to say Tommy we appreciate your time and effort in running this board, it is clearly intended for fans to be fans and not to bash individuals. Thank you for keeping it this way, I believe this board together with your fan site are excellent. Dont listen to what other ppl are saying, just think about your own site and keeping it as one of the best around, let them fester in their own negativity and hatred. I like how you allow ppl to talk freely and not control them but also deal with unpleasant situations, I think you handled everything well in offering members the choice. Keep it up, boards like this are run for fans by fans and I think you have created something very good.

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We are pleased to now offer a free slice of pizza with each new membership



-- Edited by Bobby Boy on Tuesday 31st of March 2009 08:33:35 PM

 



I guess we won't be getting any free pizza. 

 



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Somehow I doubt they will be either. They'll hold their hands out for pizza and the shackles will be put on instead. Tommy offers something good here and no bribery is needed.

I just had a look over there and he is using his site to spread bad talk about us over here, he stoops so low and it just shows what an unpleasant guy he is, lets see if the other members there are as sad as he is. Have you seen the pictures he posted? no Let them fester in their own patheticness. This is their site owner, such a responsible guy. Shania would be so proud. biggrin

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I think we should not bring his name or site into any posts here anymore - that is one sure way to rid these boards of his presence.

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I agree.

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Who we talking about lol

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Ive forgotten already!

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Seems the Shania forums are not doing so good after all, I see ppl complaining about how it is managed. Who runs that board exactly?

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I'm not sure who owns it anymore. A guy named Matt used to. Not sure if he still does. But the board is run by 4 or 5 crazy, uptight moderators!

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I'm not sure who owns it anymore. A guy named Matt used to. Not sure if he still does. But the board is run by 4 or 5 crazy, uptight moderators!



How strange, why are they so uptight? If it is no fun I dont see why ppl would want to be there. It looks like 2 or 3 mods do the work whilst the others dont even post. Members are asking for an overhaul.

I looked at THAT other board again, the decisions there are even stranger...as Bobby seems to like talking about this board and saying not so nice things about the ppl here I will show you his policy in his own words...


Hey Guys. Looks like from what I am reading or not reading anywhere around the net,it has been a quiet weekend on the shania front. For your info this posting shutdown will be a fairly common event coming into the summer months. As I said I am not fretting too much over this as to say having the ability to post about shania 6 days out of 7,in keeping with her her current status, well lets just say we all know that is more than enough. Besides with all the money I am now making running this site it is nice to be able to afford the luxury of a day of rest.

So if Bobby is away everybody has to stop and wait for him. Not self centered at all! Why can Tina not do it if it is a joint board, and if all members are approved so strictly why does he not trust them?

My point is Tommys board gets it right...freedom to enjoy and not controlling and messing his members about.



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Hey Tommy you had a visitor from Switzerland today.

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Bob has a post on his site now how we must be bored with this site because we are reading his site.Funny thing is he's reading this site,what a dim wit.

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Well this thread is all about the various Shania boards out there, I guess it was only fair we reviewed Bobby's...its obviously a very trusting board, I mean wow to allow members to post at all, I'm amazed, I bet they are delighted. When Bobby is away they cannot post, great how he trusts them like that, and very thoughtful as Kevy says that when he is away they can treat that day as a HOLIDAY!! Wow-wee! How many times do they have to bow before posting?

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Bob is quite the character.I guess a little delusional would be a better way to put it.He reads this board all the time and comments on it then try's to attack us for reading his board,thats funny.But what i like the best is he claims me and you do 75% of the posting on this board and if you look not even close.But the funny part about his post is he does do 75% of the posting on his board and i bet he started about 90 to 95% of the threads on his site.It is amazing how a delusional mind works.I guess they just don't realize people can actually read.


-- Edited by kelc317 on Sunday 31st of May 2009 09:58:32 PM

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I thought his comments aimed at Tommy regarding disability and taxpayers were out of order too. I guess ppl show their true colors when they cannot be confronted, its easy to hide behind something and throw things. I think it is hilarious that Bobby is today saying I am banned from his board - I have never tried to join! He is also suggesting Tommy should close his borad down - I think he should mind his own business, maybe he just cant handle that Tommys board is one thousand times better than his will ever be. Ignore it all Tommy.

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I'm not sure who owns it anymore. A guy named Matt used to. Not sure if he still does. But the board is run by 4 or 5 crazy, uptight moderators!




That is a wee bit harsh mi amigo.smile



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I thought his comments aimed at Tommy regarding disability and taxpayers were out of order too. I guess ppl show their true colors when they cannot be confronted, its easy to hide behind something and throw things. I think it is hilarious that Bobby is today saying I am banned from his board - I have never tried to join! He is also suggesting Tommy should close his borad down - I think he should mind his own business, maybe he just cant handle that Tommys board is one thousand times better than his will ever be. Ignore it all Tommy.

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Bob is over there making all kinds of ridiculous accusations.He said Tommy was on his site under a different name and he banned him.How did Bob after all these months find out what Tommys ip was?And you STF didn't even want to join but now he banned you.And me, i now had 3 accounts on his site.He thinks Tommy should close this site down,last week Tommy's for a few days was getting over 140 views for a 24 hour period.Bob is lucky to get 25 views and he also has other accounts to.Williow,Teo and Greasemonkey are all Bob.I bet if we all agree on this site not to view Bob's site for about 24 to 48 hours we could drop Bob's views to about 10 LOL.

 



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I don't see what business it is of his what happens on Tommy's site. Tommy doesnt have to listen to any of his garbage and threats, this board is doing just fine and much better without him dominating and telling Tommy how to run his own site. It was so nice to be hit on in such a sexist chauvenist way and flirted with as soon as joining I cant tell you! I'm so sad any new members wont have that experience...

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I thought his comments aimed at Tommy regarding disability and taxpayers were out of order too. I guess ppl show their true colors when they cannot be confronted, its easy to hide behind something and throw things. I think it is hilarious that Bobby is today saying I am banned from his board - I have never tried to join! He is also suggesting Tommy should close his borad down - I think he should mind his own business, maybe he just cant handle that Tommys board is one thousand times better than his will ever be. Ignore it all Tommy.

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Bob is over there making all kinds of ridiculous accusations.He said Tommy was on his site under a different name and he banned him.How did Bob after all these months find out what Tommys ip was?And you STF didn't even want to join but now he banned you.And me, i now had 3 accounts on his site.He thinks Tommy should close this site down,last week Tommy's for a few days was getting over 140 views for a 24 hour period.Bob is lucky to get 25 views and he also has other accounts to.Williow,Teo and Greasemonkey are all Bob.I bet if we all agree on this site not to view Bob's site for about 24 to 48 hours we could drop Bob's views to about 10 LOL.

 



-- Edited by kelc317 on Monday 1st of June 2009 01:40:42 PM

Bob is lying as usual. How the hell can he ban me when I never registered??? I'd never waste my time on his board!

 



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STF1 wrote:

I thought his comments aimed at Tommy regarding disability and taxpayers were out of order too. I guess ppl show their true colors when they cannot be confronted, its easy to hide behind something and throw things. I think it is hilarious that Bobby is today saying I am banned from his board - I have never tried to join! He is also suggesting Tommy should close his borad down - I think he should mind his own business, maybe he just cant handle that Tommys board is one thousand times better than his will ever be. Ignore it all Tommy.

-- Edited by STF1 on Monday 1st of June 2009 12:14:25 PM



Bob is over there making all kinds of ridiculous accusations.He said Tommy was on his site under a different name and he banned him.How did Bob after all these months find out what Tommys ip was?And you STF didn't even want to join but now he banned you.And me, i now had 3 accounts on his site.He thinks Tommy should close this site down,last week Tommy's for a few days was getting over 140 views for a 24 hour period.Bob is lucky to get 25 views and he also has other accounts to.Williow,Teo and Greasemonkey are all Bob.I bet if we all agree on this site not to view Bob's site for about 24 to 48 hours we could drop Bob's views to about 10 LOL.

 



-- Edited by kelc317 on Monday 1st of June 2009 01:40:42 PM

Bob is lying as usual. How the hell can he ban me when I never registered??? I'd never waste my time on his board!

 



Ignore him Tommy, he is playing games. He said the same about me, as if I would want to join THAT site...

He is still telling you how to run yours, kinda funny when you think his is th eone with all the problems!

My thinking would be a strict warning in PM by the obvious culprits by Tommy. Needless to say I can do the same as moderator here and in fact it would even be easier, as I am the main combatant . Anyhow there is my suggestion. Failing that I am more than prepared to keep the tanks rolling.

So a peace offering followed by a threat! I remember offering him a chance to start over twice and he refused it, and that was after HE had started all the problems harassing me and sending me messages. He is not interested in making up. His site is nothing compared with yours Tommy and never will be. Ppl dont know it exists, I can see fans really knowing to type "Bobby Boys Shania" into Google lol...



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..I used to think he was just overly aggressive but I have come to realize he appears to have a few screws loose..

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