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Well, if Shania really wants to do a "Beyoncé-album-thing" obviously she wouldn't tell anyone that she's found a new producer. She can tell whatever she wants to press and fans (and we know she did it for the last 12 years now), not to throw the surprise away.
I'm waiting too for Faith's new album.
My bets are on:

Faith
Shania
Reba

Reba said that a new album will come but we have to wait a bit longer. But she doesn't seem the kind of artist to release an album without promotion.

The thing is, this may not even be true for anyone. They could have made up the whole rumor just to spark a fire. But, if it is true, my money still goes on Faith Hill. Obviously her last several singles have failed to make an impact on country radio. She actually had an album finished after she released, "American Heart," in 2012, and saw it peak at only #26. I think she scratched whatever she had had as an album, mainly because the singles she had released, were probably supposed to have been better charting songs. So it makes sense, considering she is featured on Tim's latest single, "Meanwhile Back At Mama's," which has scored Faith her first top 20 hit in 5+ years. You can see she's trying to be younger again, appealing to a younger audience, so why not do a beyonce surprise album if you want to appeal to the youth. Her husband has garnished the last 5 years to a younger audience, and has seen number 1 albums and singles, so maybe if Faith tries that, she could perhaps achieve similar success.

Exactly my thoughts Melanie. Even if I suspect it'll take Shania more than two months to record an album, especially her first one without Mutt Lange.
But we'll see pretty soon. After 12+ years, 3 months are nothing

A Full Beyoncé must contain ALL these elements:

• This must be a full album, ideally but not necessarily containing a larger than average number of tracks.
• Tracks on the album must be accompanied by videos.
• The artist must be a global superstar, a multi-platinum act in at least one major territory, or an artist with a huge/deranged online fanbase.
• Trickily, it must be common knowledge that the artist has been working on new material – but the release must still also, somehow, be a surprise.
• There must have been no legitimate leaked information about the nature of the release in advance of the release. A beyoncéd album that has been trailed by an interview regarding its release could potentially be regarded as little more than a conventional album release with a shorter promotional window.
• There must be no conventionally promoted single leading into the album’s release.
• It must be a standalone album release – it can’t just be an addition to a previous album campaign, a deluxe edition or any sort of repackage.
• By its nature this album will almost certainly be released digitally first – it’s impossible to send CDs into production then get them to retail without news leaking. (If an album does indeed make it to stores with literally no warning before, say, shops open at 9am, it will be permitted as a full beyoncé.)
• The nature of the release must be convincingly presented as an artistic statement or creative choice, rather than being a transparent attempt to drum up interest in an album campaign that hasn’t been working out properly.
• Total beyoncégeddon must be achieved across all social networks for at least 24 hours.

Strictly optional factors include instantly iconic but basically **** artwork, a Sia track, and songs about bonking.

Who could pull off a full beyoncé?
Adele, U2, Rihanna, Madonna, Janet Jackson, Taylor Swift.

she's definitely recording.
i saw her show in may, and she announced, "i love making music but it's nice to be out of the studio and on the live stage"
plus, didn't she disclosed back in 2011 that she was back in the studio?
honestly, i think she's being purposely elusive regarding this new album business--saying only that she's writing and looking for a producer--so that there's no deadline. and the perfect ending to a secretive production would be a "surprise" release.
i think this would be a smart move for shania.
for those who are regular itunes users, you'll recall that at the time of the beyoncé album release, she literally took over itunes… plus the surprise aspect brought international news attention whereas conventional album releases happen every week.
in order for shania to not only maintain her current fanbase but capture a new one, i think this would be an incredibly smart approach.
also, with her citing lana del rey, birdy, imagion dragons, pink, and matthew koma as the music she's currently listening to… it'll be interesting to see if and how that influences her own style.

As much as we want new music, I don't see it happening. She is way too comfortable with her Vegas gig. With it being sold out so many nights it gives her false confidence that she is still a global superstar in the prime of her career. Releasing an album on her own would be way too scary for her. In Vegas she is 1999 Shania, not the reality of 2014 Shania. In Vegas she is able to live in a career frozen in time with nothing but hits with people adoring her. To compete against the new crop of 20-30 something artists would be too daunting for her.

And it is also different for each country. Celine Dion has disappeared from the map in the Netherlands. The fans know about her new music, but the average person doesn't. A few days ago a friend of mine asked me if I knew how Celine was doing, since she wasn't doing music anymore. I told him that she recently released some new music, and did a tour, but he didn't know. A very large radio station over here released a news message a while ago where they said they won't play Celine anymore, since people are fed up with the same old songs over and over.
And that is sad. I fear the same for Shania though. Over here, people have forgotten about her. The 30-40 year old people know/recognize some of her songs, but only a few of them know who I am talking about when I mention her name. Unfortunately....

The breaks Celine and Shania have taken, haven't done their career much good. But I guess it was good for their own personal development. They choose to do this, and they know the risks. Of course, their families are way more important than their career. But it is sad for the fans.

I mean, I have to travel over 5000 miles, spend almost 3000 dollars to see a Shania show?! That's insane!

That's what she's been looking for for a while: no pressure at all.
I remember an interview where she said that when 9/11 happened she wasn't sure releasing an album would have been wise and right.
I think that if it wasn't for Mutt and for IGGG already climbing the charts, Up! wouldn't have been released at all.

Shania has rich people problems. If she needed the money, she would have to work through her pain, like she did before stardom. After her parents tragic death, Eilleen got back to work thanks to Mary Bailey. Were not for her, Shania wouldn't have left Canada. Shania's first mistake was to distance herself from Mary after she married. Men don't leave their friends after they marry. She put her eggs in the same basket and she's paid for it. But in her Why Not series Lionel Richie implied that Shania was bs'ing with her vocal problems.

I'll concede that 911 did a number on people. Things are not as cheery as they were before. Up as an album was good, but the chemistry was not as synergistic as her previous work. The Eggar biographer said that didn't "niggle" right. Based on Shania's recent inspiration, she doesn't want to be perky. She's grown. Perhaps the label's rejected her serious work. Who knows.

Whatever the case, I don't know how many will care if releases an album in 2020. Unless she duplicates Sade's success. She can go without releasing any new work for a decade and still be relevant and sell like hotcakes globally. Time will tell.

Butters wrote:

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Vegas gives her security. As a long -time fan, it was very troubling to see her personality--which was sassy and confident and much more edgy during her TWIM and COO days, turn to deep, deep insecurity. Watch any interview pre-Mutt split (Behind the Music, etc....) and Shania was all sassy and confident. Then watch her during her OWN Oprah show and she was not the same person. Very clingy, and insecure and retained none of the same sass and confidence like she did before. Mutt and her marriage was her confidence. Her divorce, voice issues and whatnot changed her as a person. And I don't see Fred as the motivator like Mutt was. Her and Mutt seemed like equals. Fred seems more of a guy who has a crush on Shania and lets Shania coast along with no pressure.....

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 Wow, a psychologist!

Melanie wrote:

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Butters wrote:

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Vegas gives her security. As a long -time fan, it was very troubling to see her personality--which was sassy and confident and much more edgy during her TWIM and COO days, turn to deep, deep insecurity. Watch any interview pre-Mutt split (Behind the Music, etc....) and Shania was all sassy and confident. Then watch her during her OWN Oprah show and she was not the same person. Very clingy, and insecure and retained none of the same sass and confidence like she did before. Mutt and her marriage was her confidence. Her divorce, voice issues and whatnot changed her as a person. And I don't see Fred as the motivator like Mutt was. Her and Mutt seemed like equals. Fred seems more of a guy who has a crush on Shania and lets Shania coast along with no pressure.....

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 Wow, a psychologist!

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Butters, it seems you haven't read Shania's autobiography or watched the interviews she did to promote it. If you did you would know that Shania has always been insecure and afraid of being in the spotlight and just hid her insecurities. During the Why Not series she opened up and showed us her real self and that she is only human. When I compare old interviews and appearances with new ones I see a Shania that is finally happy and enjoying life. She doesn't seem happy in the old interviews. Obviously and luckily Fred also finds that family is more important than career and pressure. Eja can be lucky that he has a caring mom and not a workaholic mom like for example Heidi Klum whose nanny knows her children better than she knows them. 

 

I didn’t write “most people”. I wrote “some people”. Some people here seem to be very fanatic about Shania. That’s visible in the rage and the choice of words in their posts.I am critical and call things into question, but there is a huge difference between being critical and wanting to dictade Shania what to do/what to wear and how to live her life. Of course I’m also sad that there is no new music, but I can accept things the way they are and wait. And if there will never be a new album I can accept that too. I’m not fanatic and burst with anger when the decisions Shania makes disappoint me.

These fanatic fans are kinda like people who stalk their exes because they cannot accept the separation.

Izy Twain wrote:

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Is it just me or am the only one thats getting rather annoyed with  people complaining about Shania not releasing  a new album?.  I know me and a bunch of Shania  fans are thirsty for new music. Clearly   she is not there yet, She will  release an album when she has enough confidence do so. I think personally her Canada shows will giver her not only promotion to come and see her in vegas but way to gain more confidence and motivate her to get back out there more then anything really. 

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 Then ignore it. If you do not have a single thing to contribute to the discussion, then simply do the adult thing and ignore it instead of constantly complaining that people want to discuss it.

barebackwarrior wrote:

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I doubt most people in this public forum are crying about Shania's lack of musical output. Some are being melodramatic, lol! This isn't Days of Our Lives, hee, hee. Just because some are critical does not mean that they have no life outside of Shania. The same can be said of those who wear rose colored glasses. As for myself, I'll say that none of us know the outside of her celebrity. Just because she is talented, gracious and attractive does not make her better than me and my loved ones. In my line is work, I am criticized all the time and don't have the luxury of fans who believe in me. I have to always prove myself. That's something that I have to live with. So why should all fans coddle her? Shania proved herself years ago and if she aims to continue working in the mainstream, she will have to prove herself all over again. And this isn't something that I'm saying as an opinion; all performers and public figures undergo similar rigors regardless of occupation.

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 Perfect post. I couldn't have said it better myself.

Butters wrote:

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barebackwarrior wrote:

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Shania has rich people problems. If she needed the money, she would have to work through her pain, like she did before stardom. After her parents tragic death, Eilleen got back to work thanks to Mary Bailey. Were not for her, Shania wouldn't have left Canada. Shania's first mistake was to distance herself from Mary after she married. Men don't leave their friends after they marry. She put her eggs in the same basket and she's paid for it. But in her Why Not series Lionel Richie implied that Shania was bs'ing with her vocal problems.

I'll concede that 911 did a number on people. Things are not as cheery as they were before. Up as an album was good, but the chemistry was not as synergistic as her previous work. The Eggar biographer said that didn't "niggle" right. Based on Shania's recent inspiration, she doesn't want to be perky. She's grown. Perhaps the label's rejected her serious work. Who knows.

Whatever the case, I don't know how many will care if releases an album in 2020. Unless she duplicates Sade's success. She can go without releasing any new work for a decade and still be relevant and sell like hotcakes globally. Time will tell.

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 Exactly. She has money now. She is free to coast on her past success. Which she has been doing since the release of Up!. 

It just is a shame. So much talent. Millions of singers would kill to be in her position and she just decides to quit being relevant and making new music. Sad. 

I still think that it goes back to fear and confidence. I just don't think she deep down wants to release a non-Mutt album. 

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Millions of singers would kill to reach what Shania has already reached and for a career like hers. A shame? Sad? What? It may be sad for the fans but not for Shania. Shania is not sad about not having released a new album yet. She feels she has already reached everything/more than she ever imagined. She is finally happy and that's all that really matters, but you don't care about Shania's well being you just see her as a machine that has to spit out new music.

 

Melanie wrote:

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Butters wrote:

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barebackwarrior wrote:

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Shania has rich people problems. If she needed the money, she would have to work through her pain, like she did before stardom. After her parents tragic death, Eilleen got back to work thanks to Mary Bailey. Were not for her, Shania wouldn't have left Canada. Shania's first mistake was to distance herself from Mary after she married. Men don't leave their friends after they marry. She put her eggs in the same basket and she's paid for it. But in her Why Not series Lionel Richie implied that Shania was bs'ing with her vocal problems.

I'll concede that 911 did a number on people. Things are not as cheery as they were before. Up as an album was good, but the chemistry was not as synergistic as her previous work. The Eggar biographer said that didn't "niggle" right. Based on Shania's recent inspiration, she doesn't want to be perky. She's grown. Perhaps the label's rejected her serious work. Who knows.

Whatever the case, I don't know how many will care if releases an album in 2020. Unless she duplicates Sade's success. She can go without releasing any new work for a decade and still be relevant and sell like hotcakes globally. Time will tell.

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 Exactly. She has money now. She is free to coast on her past success. Which she has been doing since the release of Up!. 

It just is a shame. So much talent. Millions of singers would kill to be in her position and she just decides to quit being relevant and making new music. Sad. 

I still think that it goes back to fear and confidence. I just don't think she deep down wants to release a non-Mutt album. 

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Millions of singers would kill to reach what Shania has already reached and for a career like hers. A shame? Sad? What? It may be sad for the fans but not for Shania. Shania is not sad about not having released a new album yet. She feels she has already reached everything/more than she ever imagined. She is finally happy and that's all that really matters, but you don't care about Shania's well being you just see her as a machine that has to spit out new music.

 

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She isn't a machine? *shocked*

Thanks for bursting my balloon. I thought Shania was made of titanium and had an off/on switch.

By the way, I signed a a 10x10 pic of myself and autographed it. I just need to know where you want me to send it. With you being my biggest fan and all and only posting to make a comment when I say something.

 

Melanie wrote:

Shania is not sad about not having released a new album yet. She feels she has already reached everything/more than she ever imagined. She is finally happy and that's all that really matters.

 

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 Did she tell you this over lunch last week? Next time you spend time with her, tell her I said "hello". 

Butters wrote:

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Izy Twain wrote:

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OMG BUTTERS why  DO YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO PICK A FIGHT!!!!!

I don't complain unlike you Butter's. Unlike your negative prude self I stand up for my idol and defend  her. I have better things to then sit on my but and complain about  everything Shania says does. GET over it and just except for Shania who she  is.

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You are the one who likes to pick fights. Adults in this thread were having a conversation. Nobody was being mean. The name of the thread is, "New music, album coming soon?"A thread to discuss if new music is coming or will be coming. People were politely giving their opinions on the topic. You were the one who stopped the conversation like you usually do with you're bitching and crying and moaning how mean some people are towards your perfect and amazing and swell and loving and God-like creature who normally just goes by the name Shania. And no you do not have better things to do. You have proved that once again with your, "Stop being so mean to poor little Shania" tantrum.

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 So why don't you just stop  and ignore what I say, that would be the adult thing to.  Whatever i hope she  gets an album out here soon so can prove to people like you that she can  still do it without MUtt she still  the best  selling  female ,artist of all time today  She still the one and her Vegas show proves it. 

Butter's you must not have an idol or someone you look up  too in your life thats sad . Ya so  I love Shania to death   not  ashamed. nor should I be I have good reason as to why  I love my Shania . YOu just don't get that Shania  means  lot to me and to other  people. so don't be so Judgmental twoards the people who want to love an adore such a wonderful person Who cares. 

As i said before the Canadian shows will  hopefully gain her confidence and she will be ready  and willing do another  album and say ok i can do that I can do this. 

Butters wrote:

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Did she tell you this over lunch last week?

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I’ve seen her latest interviews, appearances and her Vegas show. That should be enough. And comparing her new appearance to old appearances she does seem far happier now. She is glowing inside and out.

As Shania herself once said: You can’t have a happy face without a happy heart.

Butters wrote:

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With you being my biggest fan and all and only posting to make a comment when I say something.

 

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I thought that was what you are craving for as an attention wh**e. All you want to reach with your posts is attention and provoke people.

By the way I’ve missed a comment by you on Shania’s pool picture. Must have been really shocking for you to see Shania showing that much skin and not being wrapped up in a neoprene suit. Thought you’d give us opportunity to laugh again by commenting on that picture.

 

Melanie wrote:

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Butters wrote:

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With you being my biggest fan and all and only posting to make a comment when I say something.

 

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I thought that was what you are craving for as an attention wh**e. 

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Going around calling other people wh*ores is very peace-keeping and Shania like. 

 

Melanie wrote:

 

By the way I’ve missed a comment by you on Shania’s pool picture. Must have been really shocking for you to see Shania showing that much skin and not being wrapped up in a neoprene suit. Thought you’d give us opportunity to laugh again by commenting on that picture.

 

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 You truly are obsessed with me and my posts. That is the truly amusing thing.

barebackwarrior wrote:

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In my line is work, I am criticized all the time and don't have the luxury of fans who believe in me. I have to always prove myself. That's something that I have to live with. So why should all fans coddle her? Shania proved herself years ago and if she aims to continue working in the mainstream, she will have to prove herself all over again. And this isn't something that I'm saying as an opinion; all performers and public figures undergo similar rigors regardless of occupation.

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By the way I think one cannot compare our "normal“ work life and careers with the spotlight career of a superstar. I doubt that the pressure and criticism you experience in your work life is comparable with the high pressure of fame. So many of the greatest stars have killed themselves with drugs because they couldn’t deal with that pressure. Shania has a whole chapter about the price of fame in her book and I doubt that she wants to relive that.

Logan33 wrote:

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I wonder what kind of songs she has been writing lately. I wonder if she is currently still even writing.

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 I have been wondering that myself lately. I keep thinking, are there new love songs, are there new songs with the same vibe as MIFLAW, TDIMM, IGGG? It's interesting to think about. Really hoping it will be sooner than later that we will here these new songs. I at least want to know a few titles. Haha!