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landsharkk · Senior Member

RE: SHANIA AND MUTT SPLIT!

xxsarahnade · Senior Member

is that eja she's hugging?

Kringlesforall · Veteran Member

The magazine "claims" he's Eja.

If he is...Man! That kid is growing into least 6 feet tall. He's already standing at 4'8-ish. He could tower over his mom at the age of 8! lol

2ndAmendment · Guru

Eja is almost as big as his mom, lol. He was a big three year old too from those older photos at LAX. Momma's good cooking and diet I say, hehe.

It's a shame, that was a beautiful rock on her finger we have all come to admire over the years, but indeed plagued as we know now. Sad.

-- Edited by 2ndAmendment at 07:27, 2008-06-16

Kringlesforall · Veteran Member

I wonder why they were hugging like that? Maybe he stayed in Canada while she went to Carribean? Or did they share "moment" like an old memory?

Country gal · Guru

Yup sharkk,the rock is gone.
after all those years ,dang it,and if you notice, it even left a mark,shania gotta have a good tan in her hands to erase that.
is Eja really tall or what??shania in a while will be able to wear his t-shirts smile

,look how he hugs his mom aww

that's sweet.

xxsarahnade · Senior Member

hah daing he's tall
that's why i didn't know if that was him or not.

Muzikproducer · Veteran Member

Hey guys,

New here........Wish i would come on better circumstances lol......But things can only go up from here!

I was just curious to see where you guys on the information on the properties being exchanged....The only article i found was on the Chataeu on lake geneva, Which can't be true because they don't even own that anymore........

Country gal · Guru

Hi Producer and welcome aboard,
i think i know you from that other board,just check my account and you'll see by my country's name who i'm,i'm the only on-line fan from that country i guess

hey about the chateau,yes they sold it to a Russian couple,but when the mags say Chateau de sully the mean the whole area.
this is how they call the area 'Chateau De Sully' because there's an old Chateau there and the area is named after it.
so Mutt is living in the 'Chateau De Sully' area and not in the Chateau he once owned with shania.
that's all i know.

2ndAmendment · Guru

Yes Switzerland has Cantons and Districts and the whole thing gets confusing. When they moved it was all generally in the same place.

I also have a cousin in the area, living in the capital of the Canton where Shania and Mutt are, anyone know the city I'm hinting at? It's like a Bob trivia question.

Bob · Guru

Well Joe...IF you are talking about their estate AFTER the Sully castle sale then I will go with....Town...Corseaux, in the Canton of Vaud ,which has a CAPITOL CITY of Lausanne.��
If I am wrong...Sorry....I did my best...Bob

Country gal · Guru

i have no idea about these Swiss towns you lads have been talking about, but i know this...
when my buddy got invited to the wedding of a Swiss couple he had met here,the invitation didn't had any address,it just said Chateau...something and i think it had a number as well.
so i guess that's how it is there,some areas are named after a chateau .
by the by,the woman's sis was living in the same area with shania back then and she said that shania was a sweet quiet lady and very beautiful in person.
they've spotted her out shopping for groceries.
so she was always quiet even back then, long before the separation,i'm talking about 4 years ago.

Bob · Guru

Canton...Not to worry...It is way to difficult to explain 400 years of history..Having said that, at one point each canton had even its own army...As I said...Not to worry...Shania moved around while over there...Thats the bottom line...Bob

Tommy · Guru

Country gal wrote:

Hi Producer and welcome aboard,
i think i know you from that other board,just check my account and you'll see by my country's name who i'm,i'm the only on-line fan from that country i guess
hey about the chateau,yes they sold it to a Russian couple,but when the mags say Chateau de sully the mean the whole area.
this is how they call the area 'Chateau De Sully' because there's an old Chateau there and the area is named after it.
so Mutt is living in the 'Chateau De Sully' area and not in the Chateau he once owned with shania.
that's all i know.

Wait. The actual "castle" Shania and Mutt lived is called Sully. There's even a website with pics.
http://www.swisscastles.ch/Vaud/chateau/sullyenglish.html

Country gal · Guru

now i'm lost,
shania herself said that there is an old castle near by that the whole area took it's name from.
maybe the area is called De Sully too???
or maybe shania made a small mistake??
i have no idea,but it is true that some areas have no addresses just Chateau something,i saw that wedding invitation i was talking about with my own eyes.

2ndAmendment · Guru

Bob wrote:

Well Joe...IF you are talking about their estate AFTER the Sully castle sale then I will go with....Town...Corseaux, in the Canton of Vaud ,which has a CAPITOL CITY of Lausanne.
If I am wrong...Sorry....I did my best...Bob

You are fully correct Bob.� All the way down the line to where my cousin lives in the capitol of Lausanne.� Actually I think both estates belonged to the Vaud Canton on Lake Geneva.� My cousin works for the devil Philip Morris as the head accountant of the entire European district!

Tina, it is confusing but you do lead on the right idea about the particular regions involving castles (chateaus).

I've had an invite to visit (CH) as my cousin has told me how beauitful it is, but the circumstances ain't quite the same...

twain2country · Guru

Quote from Hello Canada article (June 16 issue):

"It was Shania's honey voice and charisma that I fell in love with, not Mutt Lange's production," said one country fan. "When people go buy a Shania album, they buy it because they love Shania. Her fans will be there for her always."

Bob · Guru

THANK YOU,THANK YOu,THANK YOU.....Hey Joe...Check out "the corner"...I just posted that I was on the hunt for you.....WOW.....I GOT THE DIARY...Oh Baby...Is this gonna be fun...BUT....Only in the corner

2ndAmendment · Guru

I'll check it out Bob,

as for the Hello quote, you guys won't believe it, but that was written by King Walter, lol.

twain2country · Guru

Wasn't he the one who got banned for slagging Shania off? Out of all the fan quotes Hello Canada could have used I'm suprised they chose to publish his, the biggest hypocrite of them all. I think we should make a�complaint to the editor.

-- Edited by twain2country at 13:33, 2008-06-19

2ndAmendment · Guru

Well he has his ways... lol

I call him Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, sometimes good sometimes bad.

twain2country · Guru

Eja has picked up his mom's healthy eating habits, he eats chickpeas like kids eat candy. Plus in the Redbook interview Shania talked about her raw food diet, and he must be on it too. Mutt is tall, so that's why the huge growth spurt.

Came across this article on Google, but it says she actually split from Mutt last year although she only publicised the news in May this year.

http://showbiz.sky.com/shanias-sad-split-spill

-- Edited by twain2country at 14:17, 2008-06-20

Tommy · Guru

Shania's Sad Split Spill

�

June 6, 2008

Shania Twain

She announced her separation from her husband last month.

And now, for the first time, Shania Twain has spoken about the pain of her break-up.

Shania and her�husband Mutt Lange seperated last year, after 14�years of marriage.

However, the 42-year-old singer only publicised the news recently.

Writing to her fans on her website, Shania detailed her personal difficulties, saying:

"As I am sure you have seen or heard, I am going through a rough time personally in my life.

"I wanted you all to know that I could not be getting through this without you.
Mutt Lange and Shania Twain
Mutt Lange and Shania in 2003

"Your letters, emails and words of encouragement give me strength.

"Your overwhelming support reminds me to smile, no matter how deep the pain, and to always be grateful for all the beautiful blessings in my life.

She ended: "I need some time to heal this broken heart but make no mistake, I will be back and hopefully stronger than ever. Thank you my friends, from the bottom of my heart."

Wowsers. We feel the need to dab away a tear or two at this emotional monologue.

Let's only hope Shania gets herself back on the track of love sometime soon.

http://showbiz.sky.com/shanias-sad-split-spill

xxsarahnade · Senior Member

Now im confused

Tommy · Guru

Join the club Sarah! confused

twain2country · Guru

If you remember, the National Enquirer said they separated in the Fall of last year when they started butting heads over how her record should take shape. Other sources suggest her and Mutt were still living together, but sleeping in separate bedrooms. But, I agree, it is confusing. He was with her in NZ back in March and�mentioned in the Redbook article prior to that.

-- Edited by twain2country at 03:45, 2008-06-21

Muzikproducer · Veteran Member

I find it funny how they can report Mutt and shania are sleeping in seperate beds. Most of these magazines can't get simple things right as far as where they live or lived.

I read the people magazine article for the first time yesterday. and find it quite flacky. At some points its like they don't even know who they are talking about. Because they said Shania couldn't handle the isolationism and thats what broke the marriage. They should go back and read about 95% of her interviews and she clearly says she is a withdrawn person even more so than mutt..That was a complete frabrication.....Another thing that stuck out at me was, when they talked about shania and mutts relationship now. at the beginning they claim the affair, but at the end they say that Mutt and Shania remain quite close as friends. That makes no sense at all!! evileye

The fact is, nobody knows what goes on in their lives, and it bugs me that these news people pull crap out of their butts then more news people pick it up and change it. Then rumours start, and thats where we are right now..

This whole thing could be something simple as them having a rough patch. I do think they are in some sort of counsoling or maybe even talking about this amongst themselves. The only way we are really gonna know if they are divorcing is properties going up for sale. As of now that is my leading indicator...

People just need to stop and wait, instead of flapping their jaws.....

Chris Farley · Senior Member

They seperated last year???

kelc317 · Senior Member

RE: SHANIA AND MUTT SPLIT!

xxsarahnade · Senior Member

RE: They seperated last year???

kelc317 · Senior Member

Maybe they have been separated but she just found out that he's seeing someone else .I've seen it before in divorces the shock of seeing your soon to be ex with someone else.hey if your going to Walmart i have a broken foot maybe you could pick me up some toilet paper?

Bob · Guru

Folks...Many of you seem to want to believe that this was some fairy tale marriage from day one.. I totally understand that..You want her to be happy...BUT...Check out how aggressive the Up tour was,show dates,locations and duration...Question...How few days were spent together??...Not many.. Most wifes get upset if their husbands are 2 hours late getting home from work. Mosts husbands,(and don't give me the men being threatened by a powerful woman theory),would never stand for it...What ,maybe 2 or 3 days a month for the duration of a year...So what..She went home for Christmas...Big deal...NOPE..This was not a marriage that I personally think anyone that I know would want or endorse...AND...Now were are seeing the results..Nothing left..I can here to garbage going throw minds right now...NO...There are both seasoned pro's...They understand the industry...What works for one marriage doesn't work for another and so on...Owe...Ya..The best one of all...Ya but after the tour they had so much time together..That is a joke.Try holding your breath for a year and tell me how much life left�you have after it. Shania said once�she would have been happy if her career had only taken her to the point of making a simple living. �Lets give her $50,000 a year...Find a guy that loves her...maybe an auto mechanic...Lets give him $50,000...Total $100,000 annual combined...Leaving her with a nice guy who loves her,doing what she loves for a living...Music...and a nice little life style in maybe a $200,000 bungalow on a nice bush lot in the outskirts of Huntsville....Sounds pretty nice to me....I wonder if she would agree...

kelc317 · Senior Member

Bob i agree with the part of there careers making it tough to have a normal relationship,but they could have stopped anytime they wanted.And in todays times i'm lucky i make a good income so as not to have to work 2 jobs but i know couples that both work full time and have part time jobs and kids, so how much quality time do they really spend together,times have changed alot sense i was a kid

-- Edited by kelc317 at 14:00, 2008-06-21

Country gal · Guru

I agree with Kel about working parents,
Bob shania had a guy that loved her before Mutt,i'm talking about Paul but she needed someone that understands her needs as an artist.
you know many women including myself want a guy that reach their deepest thoughts and some times love alone just ain't enough.
love is blind,but it feels good doesn't it??
i might end up with a jerk too but if he gets me then i would probably be head over heels,marriage is like lottery you need� luck too,but of course you have to try hard as well.

kelc317 · Senior Member

I think the problem alot of couples have is once the kids come they stop being lovers and become parents.Speaking for myself we did all the family things togeather but we stop being lovers and all the fun that comes with that

Tommy · Guru

RE: SHANIA AND MUTT SPLIT!

landsharkk · Senior Member

Maybe we should� re-read some lyrics... was it foreshadowing?

I thought i might begin
by fillin' you in -
in case you already didn't know
i'll never forget
how you got up and left
in fact it was downright pretty low
there ain't no way i wanna,
you know i ain't gonna
take you back, so don't even try
you can beg, you can plead -
you can sweat, you can bleed
too bad i could care if you cry

That's it! (that's all!)
we had fun (we had a ball!)
it was good while it lasted -
but now i'm past it
(it was sure!) it was sweet!
sure you swept me off my feet
i miss you now and then,
but would i do it all again - Nah -

Chorus:
You won't find me
naked and cold
just a sittin' on a doctor's table
waitin' to be told justa why
i'm no longer able
to feel my heart beatin' -
give me a good reason why!
i kinda went numb
just around about the time
you told me you were moving on,
and you said that you were gonna phone me
it's been so long, and there ain't nothin' wrong with the line

It's too late to regret it,
but you're the one who said it
we're better off being apart
i hate to be a downer,
but don't bother comin' 'round here
'cause i won't have a change of heart

That's it! (that's all!)
we had fun (we had a ball!)
it was good while it lasted -
but now i'm past it
(it was sure!) it was sweet!
sure you swept me off my feet
i miss you now and then,
but would i do it all again - Nah -

-- Edited by landsharkk at 19:33, 2008-06-21

2ndAmendment · Guru

Shania always to me represented family values and an old fashioned sort of love, not "lovers" until the kids come along. I don't think this was a passion thing.

And it's not like they were without each other on the road, during the Up tour they traveled together on the bus and had a baby crib built in for Eja. It was suppose to be a happy family. I don't know why all this had to come about...

2ndAmendment · Guru

landsharkk wrote:

Maybe we should re-read some lyrics... was it foreshadowing?
I thought i might begin
by fillin' you in -
in case you already didn't know
i'll never forget
how you got up and left
in fact it was downright pretty low
there ain't no way i wanna,
you know i ain't gonna
take you back, so don't even try
you can beg, you can plead -
you can sweat, you can bleed
too bad i could care if you cry
That's it! (that's all!)
we had fun (we had a ball!)
it was good while it lasted -
but now i'm past it
(it was sure!) it was sweet!
sure you swept me off my feet
i miss you now and then,
but would i do it all again - Nah -
Chorus:
You won't find me
naked and cold
just a sittin' on a doctor's table
waitin' to be told justa why
i'm no longer able
to feel my heart beatin' -
give me a good reason why!
i kinda went numb
just around about the time
you told me you were moving on,
and you said that you were gonna phone me
it's been so long, and there ain't nothin' wrong with the line
It's too late to regret it,
but you're the one who said it
we're better off being apart
i hate to be a downer,
but don't bother comin' 'round here
'cause i won't have a change of heart
That's it! (that's all!)
we had fun (we had a ball!)
it was good while it lasted -
but now i'm past it
(it was sure!) it was sweet!
sure you swept me off my feet
i miss you now and then,
but would i do it all again - Nah -

-- Edited by landsharkk at 19:33, 2008-06-21
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�I have been saying this is the best song to represent the situation.

Muzikproducer · Veteran Member

Eja and mutt both went with Shania on the Up! tour. She said it in about 10 interviews....

Muzikproducer · Veteran Member

Oh, too all that support the theory of Shania and Mutt being separated last year, She is still wearing her wedding ring on that video of her in new zealand in March of this year.....There is absolutely no evidence that suggests they were separated last year...that article came off of a 2nd party celeb site owned by an internet TV company......More of a gossip site than anything.....

lulu · Guru

Shania and Mutt were not separated awhile ago. Again I revert back to the People magazine article. Mutt asked Shania for a divorce approximately 1 month prior to Shania's announcement of a separation. She was devasted and when she asked why he would give her no reason. Then a friend told her about the affair and she walked out. People magazine is a well respected magazine. As well, I know someone who use to work for this magazine and he said there is absolutely no way this magazine would proceed with a story like this if they were not certain of their facts.

kelc317 · Senior Member

But wasn't there a piece in a Cape Cog mag in march that said they where divorcing,i saw alot of people thought that was bs but it seems he new something

twain2country · Guru

I saw that article, but I never took much notice of it at the time. The guy obviously got his sources from somewhere, because they've now parted.

kelc317 · Senior Member

And as far as the wedding ring goes a lot of women where them while they are going threw a divorce, and in Shanias case you know the second someone sees the ring off she will get a ton of questions

twain2country · Guru

That's�a good point, no ring would have�meant a Spanish inquisition.�

Bob · Guru

Craig...Actually I posted on this site that article...Check it out...Especially the remarks in replys that were made.
Mutt did NOT take any active role in the Up tour as far as touring. Eja and Tim..YES...Mutt NO...I know the interview(s) you refer to...He was in Switzerland...Shania loves to walk in that grey area in interviews..Not to blame her...I am sure most of us would as well...Bob

2ndAmendment · Guru

Good points muzikproducer and lulu. After all Shania had an interesting interview with Redbook and we saw her in Toronto last fall promoting perfume and in NZ in March. No evidence of divorce, even if there were problems behind the scenes that Shania was not ready to reveal.

kelc317 · Senior Member

Yeah Bob it was one of the first post i read on this site,and believe you pointed out she had a couple of days off,quick trip across the pond

Bob · Guru

WOW...Yes this totally correct...I checked her tour dates and you are correct..That was NOT a performance date...The thing with that article is it didn't seem mean spirited or anything...It just seemed real and true and was presented in a way that just seemed raw� as well as totally factual.. In what appeared to be what most scorned me about...Well was it the nets first posting of the breakup...Can't help but feel this simple little article broke the story..NotPeople...Bob