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Shania Twain in Canada
The word I get is that Shania Twain and 6-year-old son Eja are in her native Canada. She's been in touch with friends to say everything that's been reported is true about her soon-to-be ex-husband -- record producer and co-writer Robert "Mutt" Lange -- and the other woman. The woman is the one who worked for Shania and Mutt in their mansion in Switzerland. The woman has also filed for divorce from her husband. I've been told the former employee pretended to be Shania's friend and went places with her. Goes to show that you just can't get good help these days.

kelc317 wrote:

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still can't say how long its been going on,anyboby know if marrie and her soon to be Ex have money?

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Marries husband is an executive in a company,
i guess they have a pretty good life but Mutt has more,oh yeah gimme some mo

 

They were everyday People who had to work for a living. This Anne-Marie must love the wealth she witnessed with Shania and Mutt. Now she will travel first class or by private jet too.

lulu wrote:

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They were everyday People who had to work for a living. This Anne-Marie must love the wealth she witnessed with Shania and Mutt. Now she will travel first class or by private jet too.

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How do  you know how she will travel?  If She or Mutt actually do get together in a long term relationship it is still Mutt's money she will be living off, not hers.
We don't even know if they are together at this moment.

I wonder if Marie-Anne a vegetarian, after all Mutt seemed to convert Shania. 

He seems to have converted alot of people in the past. Bryan Adams and Def Leppard seemed to go veggie after working with him. Didn't Shania's ex manager too?

kelc317 wrote:

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yeh you have to have a lot of the same interests or down the road theres going to be problems,as far as the cd goes ,if i had her money i would have done the same thing,screw it when its done its done

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Thats not a great attitude to take for someone who claims to be an artist like Shania. Losing credibility with the industry and some fans is not something to be proud of. Shania has made excuses for many years as to why she has no music. Any artists worth their name would be out there performing for their fans if they truly loved music.
She was even making excuses after 911 to Mutt saying she doesn't want to make her UP album but Mutt convinced her. Shania can't be so wishy washy about her music career because then nobody will take her seriously.In fact  the industry doesn' t take her seriosly and as a fan that makes me upset. But it is Shania' fault if she doesn't care about music or her legacy.
In fact  having as much money as her would even make most artists want to be more creative and get out there and share their music.
She hid behind Mutt Lange for so long that she can't hide behind him anymore.
If I were her label or management, I would seriously think of dropping her.
There are many people who are grateful and want to work and make music while Shania has done nothing for many years.
I am Shania's biggest fan but speaking from a managements point of view, who would want an artist on their client list who does so little.

Country gal wrote:

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well they might not want her now since she gave them enough money to make dozens of new acts.
btw is it true that Luke Lewis made an "agreement"with CMT to convince shania to give them an interview if they played Julie Robert's videos???
if this is true then they are just using shania

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Well, shania doesn't care if she gets used. She doesn't care about her music legacy or about anything regarding her music anymore.
She has shown very little interest in anything about her career.
If I were Qprime, I would tell Shania to either do something or they don't want her. You can't have an artist on your client list who just takes up space. But if Shania is paying them to keep her while she does nothing then that is her choice
As for Mercury, they should tell Shania to get serious about her music career or  just retire. I know as a fact from emails that Mercury and qprime are sick and tired of Shania's act but they can't say anything publicly because she is still a client. And now they aren't saying anything because of the seperation.  But give Shania a few more months here and if she is not in a studio doing some recording then I can see them finally telling shania to put up or shut up .

Hopeless Fool wrote:

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Do you think other fans have the same view as you?

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Yes I do believe many do. But remember we are a small group of fans on these sites. Imagine what the casual fan thinks who never posts on message boards.
Shania will have to reconnect with so many fans she has lost.
I really also think  many fans deep inside know what I say is true but they feel they are betraying Shania if they say it.
But  you are right there are also those that think Shania actually is their friend and loves them and cares what they think.
I am a very big Shania fan who just tells it as it is.
And the second Shania returns I will be the first to support her and defend her.

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ZippyDoo wrote:

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Well, shania doesn't care if she gets used. She doesn't care about her music legacy or about anything regarding her music anymore.
She has shown very little interest in anything about her career.
If I were Qprime, I would tell Shania to either do something or they don't want her. You can't have an artist on your client list who just takes up space. But if Shania is paying them to keep her while she does nothing then that is her choice
As for Mercury, they should tell Shania to get serious about her music career or just retire. I know as a fact from emails that Mercury and qprime are sick and tired of Shania's act but they can't say anything publicly because she is still a client. And now they aren't saying anything because of the seperation. But give Shania a few more months here and if she is not in a studio doing some recording then I can see them finally telling shania to put up or shut up .

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I really don't care about Mercury,they haven't treated her right in the past and now they might let her go because she hasn't got Mutt so they might be afraid she won't hit it big.
btw you really can't see what a sly dog Luke Lewis is???i think you are way smarter than this.

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I disagree. Shania is a brand name and an automatic huge seller just by her name. So there is no way in the world they would let their biggest star go. I said I wish they would give her a threat of letting her go jus to scare her.
But Luke lewis is not that stupid to let the biggest seller in the last 20  years go.
He knows her next project will be huge and in fact they can market her so much better and re invent her now. I mean Shania will re invent herself.

Hopeless Fool wrote:

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Be interesting to know how many more albums Shania owes Mercury.

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 I think she owes them 2. The Greatest Hits is not a studio album.
But she could buy them out if she wanted a different label.

I guess if she was still with Mutt they could have maybe set their own label up. Although many stars have had their hands burned doing that.

YeahToby got fed up and made his own label.
I say good for him.

Hopeless Fool wrote:

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Madonna's label went down the pan, and she's the biggest female of them all. It carries alot of risks as you have to keep your eye on the ball.

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yeah!you are right and shania wouldn't want to get involved with statistics and all that,she is not that kind.
maybe she could at least co -produce her next projects.

 

ZippyDoo wrote:

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Madonna is the biggest media w---e and publiciety seeker of alltime but Shania could do very little promo and sell twice as much as Madonna on their next albums.
When you are talking big stars like Shania and Madonna, they both have their strenghts. They are both worth a fortune and actually Shania and Mutt together were worth over a billion, much more than Madonna, and now Shania alone is worth over 450 million.
So there is very little to choose when you talk big stars like that.

The reason Shania won't want her own label is because of all the responsibility it envolves. She takes so long putting out any music as it is.

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I knew that you were going to post something like this kev,
btw Shania rocks in N.America and has gained the respect of many many people unlike Madonna.



-- Edited by Tommy at 21:31, 2008-07-21

I don't agree with you Kevy, I think the majority of fans of Shania's are still with her and do not believe she is a liar or that she is lazy and all the other bashing comments you make. She was busy being a mother and a wife to someone she thought she would remain married to for life. She will come back when she is ready. Right now her main concern is her son. When she comes out with a cd it will go multiplatinum due to the fact she still has a legion of fans. As for Madonna. She is to be commended for still being around lol. Talk about longevity for this woman. I know her label went down, that was a surprise to me as she is quite intelligent. On this note I do agree with you kevy, shania can outsell Madonna any day and she does it with a lot of class and dignity. On the other points we can agree to disagree.

Hopeless Fool wrote:

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He seems to have converted alot of people in the past. Bryan Adams and Def Leppard seemed to go veggie after working with him. Didn't Shania's ex manager too?

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All the nonsense aside here, it is true Mutt has converted many people he has worked with in the past including Mary Bailey (Shania's former manager who was a northern bush girl) to drop the beef, the pork, the drumstick, you name it, lol.  Makes you wonder what kind of guy he is and how he is able to persuade and change so many people.  He must have a way with words.  Could be a sly clever fella, hmm...

In Canada, school aged children have the summer off. School usually is done by June 30th and they return right after labour day weekend in the first week of September. It is a nich break for them,

ZippyDoo wrote:

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Hopeless Fool wrote:

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Madonna's label went down the pan, and she's the biggest female of them all. It carries alot of risks as you have to keep your eye on the ball.

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Madonna is the biggest media w---e and publiciety seeker of alltime but Shania could do very little promo and sell twice as much as Madonna on their next albums.
When you are talking big stars like Shania and Madonna, they both have their strenghts. They are both worth a fortune and actually Shania and Mutt together were worth over a billion, much more than Madonna, and now Shania alone is worth over 450 million.
So there is very little to choose when you talk big stars like that.

The reason Shania won't want her own label is because of all the responsibility it envolves. She takes so long putting out any music as it is.

-- Edited by Tommy at 21:30, 2008-07-21

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I'm no fan of Madonna and her antics either, but you have to admit she is a rung above Shania on the "Icon" ladder. She's been at the top of the tree for twice as long as Shania, still keeps her drive too. Shania maybe on Madonna's level in North America, but in Europe it's not the same. Shania is only really knew for COO and a purple patch in 1999. The WIM never sold in Europe. I'm just telling you how I see it over here. I'm no fan of Madonna, but she is the Queen of pop. Money doesn't come into it, media exposure and headlines say more. Madonna can't match Shania's album for album sales, but her total sales are untouchable. I know you won't like this Zippy, but you need a reality check. At least I don't personally attack Shania or call her lazy and a fan hater. I don't have an obsessive stalker like love-hate relationship with her. I like her music that's all.

He is right to call her a media whore though. Okay she doesn't use sex to sell her music anymore, but that's only because she is 50.You have to hand it to her how she has done so well on so little talent.

Maybe I should censor that word out. It's not that offensive surely.

Hopeless Fool wrote:

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ZippyDoo wrote:

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Hopeless Fool wrote:

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Madonna's label went down the pan, and she's the biggest female of them all. It carries alot of risks as you have to keep your eye on the ball.

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Madonna is the biggest media w---e and publiciety seeker of alltime but Shania could do very little promo and sell twice as much as Madonna on their next albums.
When you are talking big stars like Shania and Madonna, they both have their strenghts. They are both worth a fortune and actually Shania and Mutt together were worth over a billion, much more than Madonna, and now Shania alone is worth over 450 million.
So there is very little to choose when you talk big stars like that.

The reason Shania won't want her own label is because of all the responsibility it envolves. She takes so long putting out any music as it is.

-- Edited by Tommy at 21:30, 2008-07-21

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I'm no fan of Madonna and her antics either, but you have to admit she is a rung above Shania on the "Icon" ladder. She's been at the top of the tree for twice as long as Shania, still keeps her drive too. Shania maybe on Madonna's level in North America, but in Europe it's not the same. Shania is only really knew for COO and a purple patch in 1999. The WIM never sold in Europe. I'm just telling you how I see it over here. I'm no fan of Madonna, but she is the Queen of pop. Money doesn't come into it, media exposure and headlines say more. Madonna can't match Shania's album for album sales, but her total sales are untouchable. I know you won't like this Zippy, but you need a reality check. At least I don't personally attack Shania or call her lazy and a fan hater. I don't have an obsessive stalker like love-hate relationship with her. I like her music that's all.

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You miss the point. I don't care about how Madonna craves media exposure and attention.I am pointing out that Shania does not crave that attention and yet she  can sell twice more albums when she puts out music.
That is fact.Everything Madonna does is to get attention. Shania could of done that earlier in her career non stop if she wanted to and been a huge media whore like Madonna. But Shania has all her success running away from that junk.
So in my opinion what Shania does is so much more impressive.
And call me when Madonna has an album even come close to Shania's COO album.
Also Shania's songs cross over  many genres, Madonna's don't. Madonna is only a pop artist.  Shania's music is universal and played on many formats and I bet more people can name Shania songs because her songs are played on so many different formats.
Shania's mass appeal is greater without the media attention that Madonna creates with her tactics.
I also don't care how long Madonna has been around. If Shania wants to she can be around till she is 60 and still outsell madonna album per album.

And I would appreciate it if you watch your language and not call people her stalkers just because they have different points of view than yoiu.
For you to associate an opinion with someone stalking someone is beyond absurd and very sick.
It is very sad that you have to resort to name calling because you don't like my opinion.I would also appriciate it if you don't twist my words and put words in my mouth.

-- Edited by ZippyDoo at 17:10, 2008-07-23

2ndAmendment wrote:

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Madonna is the biggest female icon no doubt, but it comes with all her antics and shock factors. Her talents are all in the sex stuff, stage shows, videos, ect. That wicked image and style she created.

Shania is by far the real deal with real talents and has a whole lot more class.

Side note: With Shania if you take her total album sales and divide it by the total amount of albums she's released, I don't think there is anyone in music who comes out with a greater number. There are singers who have sold more total albums than Shania, but they have released many more individual albums.

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 exactly shania has only 4 albums.

and she could definitely be around even in her 60's because in country music talent matters more than trashy outfits,

in Europe Madonna is an icon indeed but in N.America she is almost like a joke

Okay Kevy! I'll apologise for calling you a stalker, that was out of order. However you must admit you do have a reputation for been an obsessive fan around the Internet. I'm still new to the net ,but I have already heard alot of negative things about you. You seem to cause problems on any board you turn up.

I take your point that 80 million albums sold with just 4 albums is staggering by any count. Hoever 200-300 million sold with say 15 is even more impressive. It's a marathon not a sprint. Anyhow I don't care about the sales or how rich she is, only Kevy needs them statistics to get him through the night.