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Yes,I totally understand what you mean...If I understand.....    Pretty confusing .It also sounds like an awful lot of quick information which makes me question the details of it... To me a is a BIG stretch to believe all this could be decided on in such a short period,especially with Mutt in Russia and Shania in the carribbean....Bob

So I guess the rumours about her not wanting to have anything more to do with Switzerland were completely false. It's a beautiful place to live, with the lakes and the mountains, so I can understand why she would like to remain there. She still needs to maintain her privacy for her and her son, and re-locating to Canada wouldn't be feasible, especially when she surfaces with new music, as she's going to draw a lot of media attention. As she's said numerous times, people are more discreet in Switzerland and are not mob-like. Staying in Switzerland as well would make it easier for Mutt to see Eja. She'll be able to attend future Swiss Gala events.

-- Edited by twain2country at 15:19, 2008-06-09

Martina's career is much smaller than Shanias. I don't think that is a bad thing. Martina as well has only toured during summer as "that is when the kids are out of school". I think Shania deciding to live in Swizterland is best for Eja. He is grounded in school there and has his little friends and that is life as he knew it. Mutt would insist on visiting rights so where else could she really have lived. And then of course there is the privacy that exists in Switzerland which I think is a good thing for Eja. Maybe Shania will do like Faith and take the Eja on tour with her. I don't know how Eja will turn out but I think both his parents are making decisions that are good for him at present.

I think there's a lot more going on here than we know.

If he did cheat on her, you'd think the last place she'd want to be is near the "scene of the crime" and you'd think that she'd want some distance between them.

Eja could go to a private school anywhere (lot of kids with celebrity parents go to private schools in the US and probably in Canada, too).

Exactly Tommy,
that's plain disgusting,and this Marie lady is just a dirty woman, Yikes.
there is no dignity in this world anymore??

Linda i agree,
probably shania is frustrated by the whole situation,and it would be really awful if she had to live in Switzerland,where she doesn't have anyone close to her.
especially if you think that she lost her husband to a Swiss woman,and she has so many memories from that place.

shame both on Mutt and Marie,how cruel they really are.

We still don't know the accuracy of this source so it's best not to read too much into it. I don't think Shania will ever forgive Mutt for what he's done and would consider taking him back if things don't work out for him, just to stay together for the sake of their son. Mutt may have been faithful to Shania up until recently or the last few years, but no-one can verify how long his affair went on, not even the media has the answer to that. Shania knew the risks when she married him and the age gap factor has always been an issue. They probably grew apart, because they wanted different things out of life and were not coming from the same head space anymore. It appears Marie-Ann helped to cause a bigger wedge between them if cracks in their marriage had already surfaced before she and Mutt got romantically involved.

I think Mutt would insist on visiting rights. He would insist on Shania living in Switzerland so he could have "reasonable Access". I hope Shania's sister can come and stay with her for awhile. I can't see Shania living anywhere else in order to give Mutt reasonable access. It sounds like dialogue between Mutt and Shania has been going on behind the scenes. (hence the discussion on what to do with their properties). I don't know how well Shania will cope with Mutt and Marie-Ann being together. I really hope that Shania does not allow this divorce to define who she is. I can only imagine how she must be feeling being betrayed by both of them. I picture Shania confiding in Marie-Ann about her difficulties with Mutt and Marie-Ann using this to her advantage. How sick is that? Like I said earlier, I really hope her sister can come and live with her for awhile. Hopefully Shania has some other friends in Switzerland that she can count on. Lets all hope for the best. In the end Mutt being such a heel, Shania is better off with out him. What a jerk.

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I really hope that Shania does not allow this divorce to define who she is. I can only imagine how she must be feeling being betrayed by both of them.

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As well as the humiliation and pain Shania must be feeling right now, imagine how uncomfortable it's gonna be for Eja to see his daddy with another woman but also for the little girl of the couple to see her mummy with his father.

Mutt apparently told People magazine that they'll always remain friends, can't see that happening when she was betrayed by him. If they had parted for reasons other than infidelity, then things would be different. When she's around Eja, she'll have to try and not show any tension towards his dad as kids can be sensitive.

-- Edited by twain2country at 18:02, 2008-06-10

Eja needs to have his father in his life.

With that said, and unfortunetly not able to read all your comments, Mutt is a slug!

Having been married before (with NO kids involved) I know that a child needs both parents to grow up. She will be handling that situation to the best of her ability.

The whole thing is sad. I just don't understand the reasoning Mutt might have had for this. Worst case scenario would be to stay together for Eja. Providing there is nothing strange going on here. If they just have fallen out of love than the child should not suffer for it. Abuse and the like are not part of "my" equation.

My wife, my 13 year old daughter and I are going through tough financial times right now, but there is no way things will tear us apart. The Lange's have all the $$$$ they'll ever need but aparently no more love. But they have Eja. Love him. Care for him. Do what it takes for his well being. My eyes are getting teared up thinking of what he may be cheated out of! I hope I'm wrong.

I too agree good posts by all. Chris I too hope your difficulties are resolved soon. As for Shania, I too hope she has no regrets as some of the years must have been good and she has a child...the most important thing. I don't blame her for being angry (she will have to work thru her anger as part of the grieving steps to healing) but I think she will pull thru it ok. She married someone who is not good marriage material...its too bad for Mutt as he now has missed out on a women who gave him all. As for Marie-Ann, I doubt Shania will feel like resuming any sort of relationship with her. She may have too though if Mutt keeps her as a part of his life. After all, this may very well be Eja's step mom. What a mess.

Hi country gal: I too have thought this affair has been going on for awhile. Shania was away a lot touring and doing promotions. I don't understand how this Marie could look Shania in the eye as well. I see her as an opportunist who wormed her way into Shania's and Mutt's life. And Mutt, being the womenizer that he is fell for it. What a fool maybe these 2 characters deserve each other. Marie has now gone from employee of the Chateau to possibly owning the chateau. Sick

Right Linda,
Mutt will eventually dump Marie,i have come to the conclusion that there really isn't a woman in this world that could ever be enough for Mutt.
shania was the only who "kept"him for so long for the first time in his life,and they had a child too,but he is someone who can't never be satisfied i guess,and that's sad for him too.

i just hope Shania will find happiness again with some other man,and never EVER have to be alone again.

I hope Shania will find happiness with another man too. I hope she will be careful who she chooses too. This marriage breakdown should never have happened. Shania is old fashioned and when she married it was for life. This is sad it really is. Mutt is such a jerk.

Thanks Country Gal.

Twain2country, you raise some very good points. Shania probably will not have the privacy she needs to date

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Thats is what happens when you marry a twice divorced man after 6 months and move half way across the world and have a child...As I said... She has already made mistakes that have turned,what should have been a fairy tale life into a nightmare...Hope she has learned from them but not sure she has...She is still trying to find herself..this time on a beach. Bob

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As it turns out, sad but true.  Naive blinded by a love she thought she could handle and keep.  I've been agreeing with your notes Bob.

I can't believe Shania would stay in Switzerland but I have to bet it is for Eja's sake.  I mean who does she know there besides a worthless former husband and his mistress?  She will be so alone and isolated.  I hope she hasn't become a hermit.  She can seek privacy in other places.  She never seeked attention like many other A list stars so she would be fine.  Garth Brooks is as big as it gets in country music and he can live in the middle of Oklahoma with no worries.  Tim and Faith seem to be a normal family doing normal things without living in a hiding spot in Switzerland.  I just don't know what to make of this whole thing...

Maybe it might be temporary until she gets Eja fully.  A boy needs his dad but this is such an ugly situation.  Yes Bob, a fairy tale turned into a nightmare.

 

Are Eja and Marie's child in the same school?? I don't know how she can remain there and stay sane. I hope that her family take turns going there for her. I remember in one interview she was asked where she saw her self when she was 50 and she said she didn't know but maybe high in the woods in Canada. I think that is really what she considers her home.

Hello Tommy

I have been in and out of your site for some time now and must congratulate you on your excellent work, particularly with regard to keeping the Shania news section right up to date.

I don't normally get involved in chat rooms, but in this case - in the interests of promoting some balance in the opinions being expressed - I thought I would add my tuppence worth.

Firstly, no-one devotes his life to a philosophy like Sant Mat for nearly forty years and then has a passionate affair with one of his wife's close friends.  If you doubt this, then you know nothing of Sant Mat.  I think you may have misread the intention behind the not perfect translation of the French article to which you refer here.  Mutt has no intention of repurchasing the Chateau de Sully - the article tells you that he could be planning to move into the far less grand villa at Blonay originally bought to house visiting family and friends, and that he may possibly also retain Motatapu Station in the Wanaka area of Central Otago, NZ.  Everything else goes to Shania (including the La Tour de Peilz property reportedly being currently remodelled and refurbished by Marie-Anne Thiebaud ... really??)  The statement in question " Robert Lange intends to continue its relationship with the former secretary and head to Chateau de Sully, La Tour-de-Peilz" is referring to the fact that Marie Ann Thiebaud was the former secretary and former head (manager) of the Chateau de Sully estate.  Read it again, and remember it is written in not very good foreign English.  "Continuing his relationship" can mean anything from a business relationship to a friendly one.  It does not necessarily mean an adulterous one.

Secondly, I know of no relationship - be it friendship, marriage, or that between parent and child, where problems can justifiably be blamed on solely one party, and I am sure that the reason for Shania's current fragility and introspection is that she is facing, head-on, her own possible contribution to her present predicament.  Apart from being beautiful, talented, friendly, loyal and humble, she is also driven, strong-willed and hot-headed, and could well have over-reacted to what she has been told.  She would not be the first wife to fall victim to a well-meaning "friend" with only half the story and a possible hidden agenda. Hasn't it struck you as odd that great friends of both Mutt and Shania have been totally taken aback by this split; that someone like Bryan Adams (who was party to the initial attraction between Mutt and Shania, who sang at their wedding, and who has been working with Mutt until recently) was surprised?

I wouldn't give too much credence to the National Enquirer articles ... and even People magazine is reporting on information provided by so-called "reliable sources".  I have also noticed that photographs that have appeared in some magazine articles of Lange residences bear no resemblance to either their present home on the Vaud riveira or their newly constructed mansion on Motatapu Station (where I was only a couple of months ago). The only truly reliable sources of information in this instance are the Langes themselves, and neither of them has said one derogatory or incriminating word about the other.
 
Personally, I do not believe this relationship is over.  I think both Mutt and Shania have some soul searching to do and maybe some further 'evolving' to undergo.  They are very different from each other but they have some deep and abiding things in common - musical artistry, Sant Mat, Eja and nearly fourteen years of a shared existence.  Neither is young and foolish; irresponsible; ill-disciplined; or mean natured.  In fact, each has stood out as being in a class of his/her own; as having conquered the odds without losing heart or the common touch.  Each has had a profound impact on the lives of millions of people. They are both great people ... let us not belittle either of them by judging them on the scant evidence available. 

Greetings and goodnight from a chilly South Africa.

Yes, a lot of this stuff is a shock and hard to comprehend. I think none of us in a million years expected all this. So strange, so sad.

Welcome Rose...In short....No doubt you have read shania's personal message to her fans...If so, I don't see how your thoughts match her own words..To me it was pretty obvious as to what has happened and how she is being effected by it. Your well worded post to me don't match up with what she has said herself...Again...Welcome aboard...Bob

Hello! I am a new member. I just wanted to say hello and voice my opinion on this matter. I to believe that this relationship is over! Most definitely professionally. However I think this is a great opportunity for us to see what she can come up with on her own, and how she chooses to showcase it!

hsjfaar wrote:

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Hello! I am a new member. I just wanted to say hello and voice my opinion on this matter. I to believe that this relationship is over! Most definitely professionally. However I think this is a great opportunity for us to see what she can come up with on her own, and how she chooses to showcase it!

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Welcome aboard hsjfaar!