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I think the Republicans are a whole lot more thin-skinned and will continue to be for at least 8 years.

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Well i have never seen any administration call out any reports by name,and if by next year this economy is still doing bad you can say good bye to a lot of democrats in congress.

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If a politician is not doing a good job they should not be reelected.

It matters not their political affiliation.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090225/ap_on_re_us/panning_jindal/print
Republicans, Democrats criticize Jindal's speech
By BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer Beth Fouhy, Associated Press Writer 14 mins ago

NEW YORK Insane. Childish. Disaster. And those were some of the kinder comments from political pundits about Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and his response to President Barack Obama's speech to Congress on Tuesday night.

Jindal, 37, a Rhodes scholar and son of Indian immigrants, is considered a rising star in Republican ranks and a likely 2012 presidential candidate. GOP leaders, looking for a fresh face for the party's image, tapped Jindal earlier this month for the high-profile task of rebutting Obama's first address to a joint session of Congress.

But in both style and substance, Jindal's speech has drawn flak from Republicans and Democrats alike.

His criticism of government spending for emergency economic relief has been widely panned, especially given his state's receipt of billions in federal assistance after Hurricane Katrina in 2005. And Jindal's voice and earnest, awkward delivery have drawn comparisons to Kenneth Parcell, the geeky page on the NBC comedy "30 Rock."

Indeed, a new Facebook group titled "Bobby Jindal is Kenneth the Page" had already attracted more than 1,800 members Wednesday afternoon.

Republicans had high hopes for Jindal after his appearance Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press," where he delivered a forceful, concise critique of Obama's $787 billion stimulus plan and explained his decision to reject some of the money allotted for his state. He also impressed observers when he spoke to reporters after a meeting with Obama and other governors at the White House Monday.

Jindal spoke from the governor's mansion in Baton Rouge, and critics pounced on his remarks almost immediately, panning everything from his overly folksy demeanor to his complaint that Obama's plan to revive the economy was "irresponsible."

David Brooks, a conservative New York Times columnist who has criticized aspects of the stimulus plan, nonetheless called Jindal's arguments "insane" and tone-deaf given the dire economic challenges the country faces.

"To come up in this moment in history with a stale, 'Government is the problem, you can't trust the federal government' is just a disaster for the Republican Party," Brooks said on PBS' "The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer." "It's not where the country is, it's not where the future of the country is."

Fox News commentator Juan Williams focused on Jindal's delivery.

"It came off as amateurish, and even the tempo in which he spoke was singsongy," Williams said, adding that the content of the speech was "very simplistic and almost childish."

Penni Pier, a political communication specialist at Florida's Nova Southeastern University, said Jindal's presentation was overly colloquial and his message of less government and more tax cuts was substantively thin.

"It sounded like the same old rhetoric we had tax cuts the last eight years, and look where it got us," Pier said. "Jindal was also trying to be so familiar, he lost credibility. Obama is familiar, but at the same time always a statesman."

To be sure, Jindal had a tough act to follow in Obama, a naturally gifted orator whose argument for vast federal intervention to stem the nation's economic crisis was widely praised. A CNN poll taken after his speech found 92 percent of viewers had a positive reaction to it.

Rush Limbaugh, arguably the nation's most prominent conservative voice, defended Jindal on his radio show Wednesday while acknowledging that "stylistically," Obama had outshined Jindal.

"The people on our side are making a real mistake if they go after Bobby Jindal," Limbaugh said. "We cannot shun politicians who speak for our beliefs just because we don't like the way he says it."

Jindal was headed to Disney World Wednesday with his family for a vacation. But his chief of staff, Timmy Teepell, said his boss had prepared carefully for the speech and that his message was strong.

"It's a challenge for anybody to follow Obama. The guy is one of the most gifted speakers of our generation," Teepell said. "Bobby's his own harshest critic. He's always looking for ways to improve."

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Associated Press Writer Melinda Deslatte in Baton Rouge, La. contributed to this report.



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Listen the media is falling all over itself for Obama,if this bill works he and the democrats will win election again,if it fails they will loose that simple.

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......indubitably.........

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Well i have to say i think Obama new budget is over reaching,where is the money going to come from.He needs to get the economy going first.

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Lots of interesting things and new surprises to look dreadfully forward to.

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Just to much spending.He needs to get the economy going than worry about the other stuff.I think his plan for Iraq is a good one,he is going to catch some flak from the left but i think he is doing the right thing their.

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Its a stimulus package, designed to stimulate the economy, if he waits for a turnaround it might not come, this is designed to trigger the turnaround. Its a good thing, ppl are questioning where the money is coming from but you have to give the economy a boost to get it going again.

Regarding Iraq, he is making good his promise, ppl should give him credit, he is showing he is a man of his word. Ppl are looking to bash him but should give credit where it is due.

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Well first off we can debate if he is a man of his word.He said he would pull all troops out of Iraq within 15 months,now he is leaving 50,000.I think it is a smart move but it isn't what he said during the campaign.He said there would be no more earmarks but just in the budget there are over 8000,my favorite is 2 million to study why pigs smell.Now even some moderate democrats are questioning his plans to do universal heath care and his cap and trade policy's in the middle of a bad economy.I work for the power company here in Connecticut 2 to 3 years ago we raised the price of electricity 40%,people hated us.I'm just a lineman and people would beep their horns and give use the finger,come out of their house's and bitch about the price increase,if he thinks he can just raise these prices and tax's he will turn out to be just like Jimmy Carter,one term and out.

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Try living in Md. They just raised our gas and electric rates 70%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The elderly are trying to decide, freeze to death, starve to death, or don't get medicines to help me live so I can just die early. Maybe they can open up suicide 1 hour wait clinics in Walmart, give discounts and help balance the budget. I love that many of our elected officials forgot to pay their taxes? Now the people that have always paid their bills and have lived within their means have to pay for all the ones who didn't? The large corporpations fire workers while the ones that run them take the stimulus $ and provide themselves with large salaries and bonuses? I'm looking for a new country to move to where people have sense. I want Shania to be President. Either Shania or Bobby Boy, although Tommy has all the right diplomacy requirements.

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wow,Craig and Linda this is terrible,40% and 70% raise???poor peopledisbelief

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kelc317 wrote:

Well first off we can debate if he is a man of his word.He said he would pull all troops out of Iraq within 15 months,now he is leaving 50,000.I think it is a smart move but it isn't what he said during the campaign.He said there would be no more earmarks but just in the budget there are over 8000,my favorite is 2 million to study why pigs smell.Now even some moderate democrats are questioning his plans to do universal heath care and his cap and trade policy's in the middle of a bad economy.I work for the power company here in Connecticut 2 to 3 years ago we raised the price of electricity 40%,people hated us.I'm just a lineman and people would beep their horns and give use the finger,come out of their house's and bitch about the price increase,if he thinks he can just raise these prices and tax's he will turn out to be just like Jimmy Carter,one term and out.




My understanding is the deal is mostly inherited from the Bush administration shenanigans and earmarks will be history the next go around.



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Just remeber Obama has only just started, the republican government brought this about. The only way to help these ppl is Obama's government stepping in and saving them.

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I'm for all of us to work together as Americans to straighten it out. Not one group against another.Or in a broader way for all humans to work together to preserve the fate of mankind in general.

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Well there now having problems passing the budget,seems in some democrats are having second thoughts about all this spending.

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Yes, Obama is showing his true colors, politician at best. Promises promises. What a load of crap.

And one thing I do agree as Craig touched upon it, he is taking the Bush policy in Iraq a bit further, upsetting Nancy "whack job" Pelosi. So much for withdrawing the troops immediately and declaring we LOST as Harry "goof ball" Reid had said.

Trillions and trillions of dollars spent on mostly waste. Say goodbye to the US dollar as far as currency, inflation here we come. Reagan was in a much worse economic situation and we got out of it in a completely different direction.

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I think Obama has lost his mind.The spending he plans on doing is unsustainable he his going to drive this economy into the ground.I hope the Chinese have a few trillion that they can lend us,we will soon be the United States of China.

-- Edited by kelc317 at 21:46, 2009-03-10

-- Edited by kelc317 at 21:47, 2009-03-10

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Obama has done everything right the way I see it. If he pulls out of Iraq immediately ppl accuse him of leaving them unprepared. If Obama does nothing the same ppl will say he has done nothing again. No offense but you ppl are after his blood, its as if you want him to screw up. Why not get behind him and do as he suggests, do what you can to help your country not sit there waiting for your country to help you...

I was wondering whilst you are saying he has done nothing good so far, what you think about the equal pay bill he signed for women which Bush would not sign?

-- Edited by STF1 at 18:55, 2009-03-11

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I think those who argue politics here are out of their minds.

If you really feel so strongly about it you ought to be an elected official. And do something to change the system.

Crying about it here is kind of pathetic.

-- Edited by PurplePeopleEater at 16:47, 2009-03-11

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PurplePeopleEater wrote:

I think the Republicans are a whole lot more thin-skinned and will continue to be for at least 8 years.




Amen brother!smile



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PurplePeopleEater wrote:

I think those who argue politics here are out of their minds.

If you really feel so strongly about it you ought to be an elected official. And do something to change the system.

Crying about it here is kind of pathetic.

-- Edited by PurplePeopleEater at 16:47, 2009-03-11



Well its call freedom of speech,and i think its kind of pathic when people criticize what other members choose to talk about.And we are posting under NEWS sports etc.



-- Edited by kelc317 at 19:41, 2009-03-11

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Obama has done everything right the way I see it. If he pulls out of Iraq immediately ppl accuse him of leaving them unprepared. If Obama does nothing the same ppl will say he has done nothing again. No offense but you ppl are after his blood, its as if you want him to screw up. Why not get behind him and do as he suggests, do what you can to help your country not sit there waiting for your country to help you...

I was wondering whilst you are saying he has done nothing good so far, what you think about the equal pay bill he signed for women which Bush would not sign?

-- Edited by STF1 at 18:55, 2009-03-11



Did you say the same thing about getting behind the president when G.Bush was elected?I don't want his blood,but i judge him on his policies.I agree about Iraq and if he didn't do anything about the economy he would be criticize.But the problem i have is 646 billion heath care plus 200 to 250 billion annual after that.Education reform no price tag yet.His Cap and trade policy could double the price of energy.Obama whats to do this when people are hurting and he just wants to borrow and spend.Now Warren Buffet,Jack Welch both supported Obama for president and know Wall st and the ecomney better then me or most politicians and their saying that Obama shouldn't do all this right now.Their claim is the ecomney won't recover and it could get even worse if the government just continues to spend.Their Obama supporters, Buffet is even a adviser to Obama on the banking issues and I trust what their saying over any politician.As far as the equal pay bil,I have one child a daughter so how do you thing i feel about it?



-- Edited by kelc317 at 19:43, 2009-03-11

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PurplePeopleEater wrote:

I think those who argue politics here are out of their minds.

If you really feel so strongly about it you ought to be an elected official. And do something to change the system.

Crying about it here is kind of pathetic.

-- Edited by PurplePeopleEater at 16:47, 2009-03-11



Well its call freedom of speech,and i think its kind of pathic when people criticize what other members choose to talk about.And we are posting under NEWS sports etc.



-- Edited by kelc317 at 19:41, 2009-03-11




I guess that is all you Republicans have to do nowadays eh?



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Im not a republican im a independent,and i guess you must not have much to do either eh?

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Talk to your Rebuplican crybabies. You got'em for 8 long years.

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Well i think you just don't understand how a message board works Eh.See people can come from all over the world a talk about anything they like,but i guess trolls like you just have nothing better to do then call people pathetic and crybabies for doing what a message board is for.

-- Edited by kelc317 at 20:13, 2009-03-11

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The money Obama is using to stop the rot is nothing compared with the mess Bush left. Clinton spent years getting borrowing back down to zero after republican administration had overspent, Bush then busted this country sending it 100s of billions into debt, and now republicans have the nerve to question Obama spending less than a single percentage of what Bush did. Question what Bush spent his money on and look at what this money is actually going on, saving jobs, companies, industry, ppl's health.

I dont agree with purplepeopleeater about the messageboard not being used to discuss news but I do agree that no matter what for 8 years the bitter republicans are going to do what they can to be negative. I talked about the positives already done by President Obama, nobody has admitted that he has done well there, I guess they dont agree with equal pay for women which makes them what?

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Now I am a troll? That is a first.

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PurplePeopleEater wrote:

Now I am a troll? That is a first.



Some how i doubt that

 



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So STF1 and Purple after just over 50 days in office you have Obama winning a second term.Im sure if you saw Obama throwing little old ladies into a river you would say he's just teaching them how to swim.Obama has all ready broken several of his campaign promises and he is starting to get heat from moderate democrats.Two liberal NY times reports last week questioned weather Obama is in over his head.Its a long way to 2012 i wouldn't guess either way just yet if he has a second term.But if he does his cap and trade policy and artificially raises the price of energy or he raises taxes on the middle class(under 250,000)my guess is he won't get a second term.

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Well stated Craig.

And besides, Republicans in the last administration were behaving more like Democrats, fiscally irresponsible spending.

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How scary is this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNS8IY_Td14

And this one is kinda funny but not far from truth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l46t_nrySg4

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I have to agree with you on the printing money just scary.Funny that the Europeans that lean left are criticizing Obama for his spending, claiming he is repeating the mistakes of the great depression,China is now starting to complain and may stop buying are debt.Hopefully those 15 moderate democrats can hang tough and stop this nonsense.Obama and Pelosi can't get anything threw without them.

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You're full of criticisms but what are your suggestions?

You guys wouldnt give Obama credit if he saved you from drowning himself, its as if you want him to screw up.

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What stopped any Democrat besides Lieberman from feeling the same way about Bush?  They all wanted him to fail.

I have my criticisms of Bush but what Obama is doing scares the living daylights out of me.

Craig, you're right, it's so ironic how the water downed socialist countries of Europe even think Obama is spending too much and asking of other countries too much when wanting them to spend, throw money as well on the problem in this world economic situation.

The spending is aburd.

I'm with Rush Limbaugh, I want "socialism" to fail.

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What stopped any Democrat besides Lieberman from feeling the same way about Bush?  They all wanted him to fail.

I have my criticisms of Bush but what Obama is doing scares the living daylights out of me.

Craig, you're right, it's so ironic how the water downed socialist countries of Europe even think Obama is spending too much and asking of other countries too much when wanting them to spend, throw money as well on the problem in this world economic situation.

The spending is aburd.

I'm with Rush Limbaugh, I want "socialism" to fail.



You want it to fail? cry You dont want your country to succeed just because a democrat was voted in? Thats crazy! Injecting money in is nowhere near as scarey as what would happen if he left it to all go down.

Republicans are acting so bitter about losing the election, to the point where they want America to fail to prove they are right, I never see any praise going to Obama no matter what good he does. I am one of those who votes for who I think is best, Im not republican or democrat, I vote for the best option, but to want Obama to fail is to want America to fail.

 



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-- Edited by Bobby Boy on Thursday 26th of March 2009 08:10:57 PM

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Its not we want Obama to fail,we want his policies to fail.I hope his whole plan is defeated before it even passes.Bush after 8 years left us with 2.5 trillion dollar deficit.If Obama gets what he wants,after 8 years of Obama even with tax increases and a rosy projection of the economy he will leave us with a 7.2 trillion dollar deficit.The governments accounting office claims the deficit will be over 9 trillion dollars.The interest alone on the out years of Obama administration will be over 800 billion a year, that is unsustainable.Europe is complaining about are spending, China may not buy are debt, then what just print money?And i thought Bush was a idiot.

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Did you want his equal women's pay rights bid to fail?

Don't you understand the deficit that will e left temporarily by Obama is done in the worst recession since the 1930s, when it was totally necessary? What was Bush's excuse? Dont ever forget Clinton, a democrat wiped out the republican debt to zero, and you cant blame Bush Jr for that, that was Bush Snr.

You can talk all you want on irrelevant message boards, fact is Obama is in control and most Americans want it this way, this will be a real boring place to come to listen to bitter republicans slanging for 4 or 8 years. Im replying because to say the things you guys are saying is also putting down those who support Obama, thats me, I see it as a direct slur and I have a right to reply and I will.



-- Edited by STF1 on Thursday 26th of March 2009 09:27:49 PM

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I have a 21 year old daughter a sister and a girlfriend and know many more women,i want them to be treated fairly.I don't know if you have seen this from the other day but it is a member of Parliament going after Gordon Brown for his borrowing and spending,i have said this to you before you can not borrow and spend your way out of the economic problems we have.I would point out to you that what Obama campaigned on is not the way he his governing.Do you really believe if he had said i was going to raise taxes raise the cost of energy and tripling the national debt he would have been elected?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94lW6Y4tBXs

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Oh good, you support Barack Obama's equal pay rights policy then, good to see you like what he has done already and what the republican president refused to do. ;)

Its a stimulus package, the republicans were going to do the same thing.

I can only ask so many times, what you suggest instead, you are all criticizing Obama but offering no viable alternatives. Its all very dullsville.

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As far as the equal pay bill there where already laws in place to protect women,minorities and gays in the work place.I didn't hear anything on the news about it other than he signed it.It sounds like it was just a bill for political purposes.What i think Obama should do is get the economy going before he starts all this other stuff.He wants to borrow and spend 3.6 trillion dollars in the next 2 years.All which maybe good things over time but when you start raising taxes and the cost of energy now when so many people are hurting just isn't the smartest move to do.If everything costs more how is the economy ever going to recover?Its just going to make things tougher,


-- Edited by kelc317 on Friday 27th of March 2009 04:05:36 PM

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What i think Obama should do is get the economy going before he starts all this other stuff.



Genius...how? yawn

Thats what stimulus means, get going...he's already doing that, with the cash injection and its working and fast.



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This is mostly wasteful spending, pork, earmarks, temporary govt jobs and so forth. All Obama is doing will be to bankrupt this country. There are Boston ta party like events springing up all over the country. People are fed up with govt waste. Obama's numbers are already beginning to slide. And I bet if he mentioned the things he was going to do as Craig mentioned before the election, he would have not been elected.

And I'm sorry, when Reagan took over he had some real serious economic issues to deal with and he got the job done with a Democratic Congress. Obama should go more in the direction of Reagen rather than FDR.

Reagan quotes:

“In the present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem”

“The most terrifying words in the English langauge are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.”


Margret Thatcher:

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually, run out of other people’s money.”

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I wonder if the last three words of the headline of this thread explains alot of the anti Obama stuff going about?smile

-- Edited by lonelyboy on Friday 27th of March 2009 07:37:21 PM

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We are losing 80,000 jobs a month,the stock market is down 400 to 500 points off its high and IBM just announced their laying off 10,000 workers.Now in fairness the stimulus hasn't had a chance to work but the government can't spend its way out of a recession. There is no magic bullet it just takes time.But if the government raises taxes and the cost of energy it could prolong the recession.People need to spend money to get out of a recession,so if the people have less money to spend it will go on longer.

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