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Shania Twain on Dark Inspiration for New Album - May Release Date (Lead Single in March)

Tommy · Guru

Has anyone wondered why Shania met with a vocal coach last week? Maybe her voice is messed up again? That might explain delaying the single and not performing at the ACM Awards.

HumbleKevy · Senior Member

Tommy wrote:
Has anyone wondered why Shania met with a vocal coach last week? Maybe her voice is messed up again? That might explain delaying the single and not performing at the ACM Awards.

oh brother!! lol

Jacob · Veteran Member

Well she does have a huge live show she's hosting in a month so probably practicing for that. As for not releasing a single? Maybe she won't be releasing anything until the Fall. Regardless there won't be a album anytime soon. She had a chance to sing live in front of millions around the world with her first comeback in more than 15 years and chose not to.

Tommy · Guru

Jacob wrote:
Well she does have a huge live show she's hosting in a month so probably practicing for that. As for not releasing a single? Maybe she won't be releasing anything until the Fall. Regardless there won't be a album anytime soon. She had a chance to sing live in front of millions around the world with her first comeback in more than 15 years and chose not to.

But why??? There has to be a reason..... It would have been perfect timing and the perfect opportunity.

matteotempo · Guru

Can't they sing in playback during these kind of shows? I remember she sang "Pretty Face" in playback back in 2004 during the Billboard awards show (when she was surrounded by all those children). But maybe the ACM are different and she can't use the playback.

shaniafan151118 · Veteran Member

Playback may be dangerous at this point in her career.

LJ-R · Senior Member

Although I really hope she will suprise all of us tomorrow night, I don't think it's going to happen. It can be delayed for several reasons and can be that it's not her fault that we haven't heard anything yet. Record labels play a big part in these decisions I guess... Still I think it's a missed opportunity.

In case she does perform on the ACM show, I think she will take away the pressure by miming along to a pre-recorded live vocal track as she did during the last two tours with FTMO, YSTO and the (pre-)chorusses of MIFLAW, AMOM and IGGG. And please don't shoot the messenger for stating this, it was obvious she got support from pre-recorded live vocals and a lot of great artists use this technique nowadays.

shaniafan151118 · Veteran Member

Did she really for the RTC tour?? I didn't think so.... at least not for that many songs! whoa.

LJ-R · Senior Member

shaniafan151118 wrote:
Did she really for the RTC tour?? I didn't think so.... at least not for that many songs! whoa.

Just have a look on youtube, listen carefully and watch her mouth moving. As far as I can judge: The only time she did Still The One live on the RTC tour was with that guy in Canada one show (and the bit acapella before the band starts). From this moment was also definitely mimed. The other songs I mentioned had parts that were mimed I think.

1. Any man of mine (the chorus)

2. I'm gonna getcha good (pre-chorus: "don't try to run .... find that someone")

3. Man I feel like a woman (chorus until the final 'Man I feel like a woman')

Once you notice it, it's quite obvious. Sound levels don't change a single bit, even if she moves away the mic a bit from her mouth and can't spot a single different note or change in timing during these bits for any show.

But as I said, so many artists do it: Dolly Parton for instance and Celine & Mariah in Vegas as well with some big notes..

shaniafan151118 · Veteran Member

I was at the Seattle and Portland show, fourth row on the floor in Portland. From this moment on yes I agree with. You're still the one.... I'm not sure. I think in Portland and possibly Seattle, it was live. Any man of mine, understandable especially since she was doing so much going around on the cart (I was right next to her, and obviously they have bumps on the path and that would be hard to keep it good since the cart can be a bit jiggly. Interesting.

shanialover · Veteran Member

Sadly I think Shania will use any excuse to put off recording new music again. Don't get me wrong she had the marriage split and the trauma off seeing her best friend screwing her husband behind her back but all the stuff about that causing her voice problems I was always sceptical about.

If truth be known I think she would've happily retired after COO as she was a very rich woman by then. I think she had to be even persuaded by Mutt at the time to make Up! I don't think her heart has been in making new music probably this century.

By the way this is not a bashing Shania post. I respect her decisions and her freedom to live her life how she wants. Let's face it we would all have her cushy life with no money worries with multiple properties around the globe if we had her wealth and forget about work.

BoiCurtis · Veteran Member

I totally get where your coming from. I do not believe in "Bashing Shania". We are all fans here. I am her all time favorite fan! But I'm sure a lot of others would say the same thing! I agree that she probabaly would have stopped recording music (not writing) but stopped recording music after Come On Over. By then she was rich beyond her wildest dreams. It was a known fact that she was skeptical about recording the UP! album. She said herself on a radio interview that "Mutt had to push her into making the UP! album because she owed it to her fans." That is exactly what she said. She had Eja and was not really into making music as much as she was when she made The Woman in Me and Come On Over. I am just happy that she has pushed herself to make a greatest hits record and record some random songs like "Shoes", "Today is Your Day", "White Christmas", "Endless Love", "You needed Me", etc... and its great that she toured for the Up! album and even the Rock This Country Tour. I think part of making this new album was about starting over on her own without needing Mutt's help. There is no doubt that her passion is writing. She is all about the writing part of it. She has never fully been comfortable performing or in the spotlight. She has mentioned several times that one day she just simply wants to write music for other artists and have them sing the material. I am glad she has come this far and made this album and its exciting that she has even mentioned getting started right away on her sixth album after this new album comes out! I dont think we will see the last of her anytime soon. But I sort of get the fact that she likes to write music, she has made all of her money, and now she does things on her terms. But at the same time, it's very frustrating for fans when she tells us one thing and then doesnt live up to the promise. Like I said before, deadline's are not Shania's strong suit these days. But I suppose she doesnt need to follow deadlines now that she is a veteran superstar. But her fans have gotten her this far and I think she owes it to the fans to communicate a little bit and not make everything such a top secret mystery. Many artists share lyrics to new songs, or clips of thier new songs, or even mention what the lead single is going to be. I really hope that she does not string the fans along for even longer than she already has. She has gone through a lot, but so have many other artists and thier careers are thriving.

shaniafan151118 · Veteran Member

I wish she didn't feel pressure to make an album because she "owed it to the fans" for this album. Exactly, so grateful for those here and there songs, especially endless love. I listen to it daily. haha. Also stated above, I'm thankful she did do her RTC tour and that I was able to see her live, but I wish if she was doing this all out of obligation, she wouldn't because she truly doesn't owe us anything. I mean more than anything I want her to keep producing and keep touring, but if she's not in it wanting to do it, she gave us so much and for that, I'm eternally grateful. I think mystery is just her way of life. When you leave the public eye and live in the Bahamas and Switzerland, away from the crowd and paparazzi, that reallllllly built up her secrecy even more than before, and understandably so. So I think that's just her way of life, and she doesn't want people to know until the end has results. Plus she doesn't have deadlines. She doesn't have the pressure to meet them, she can do things on her own pace, where I think if she was here in the U.S. or Canada it'd be a different situation. I just wish she knew no matter how the album turned out, we're happy that she made it.

Oh fingers crossed today is the day.

Tommy · Guru

Shania Twain on Dark Inspiration for New Album - May Release Date

Jacob · Veteran Member

I am beyond frustrated, She was suppose to release a single on her 50th birthday before that year ended, She said a single in March and that did not happen. I get people on here saying it's okay if she never releases any music? I do care when she promises it. I have never seen an artist as successful as her lie to there fans like Shania Twain does. Honestly I want music but after this bull I could care less if she ever comes out with anything. I was 16 when her last album came out, I am now in my thirties. I'll probably be 50 before I hear any music. Yes I am calling Shania Twain out. Enough is enough. Your fans deserve way more respect than that. My rant for the night.

matteotempo · Guru

Rumors keep on goin' on:

www.savingcountrymusic.com/the-2017-acm-awards-complete-preview/

"Bad Music will be the order of the evening. For the last few years, traditional country fans have had pre-announced tributes and appearances by older artists to look forward to. This year there is no such thing in the works unless it is a surprise. Right now the big rumored surprise (meaning, you should expect it to happen), is a public sighting of Shania Twain."

THE PERFORMERS
• Tim McGraw and Faith Hill will perform their new duet “Speak To A Girl.”

• Keith Urban and Carrie Underwood will perform their duet “The Fighter.”

• Florida Georgia Line with the Backstreet Boys will perform “God, Your Mama, and Me.”

• Cole Swindell will perform “Flatliner” with Dierks Bentley.

• Thomas Rhett and Maren Morris perform “Craving You.”

• Reba McEntire will collaborate with contemporary Christian star Lauren Daigle.

• Sam Hunt will perform “Body Like A Backroad.”

• Lady Antebellum performs new single “You Look Good.”

• Chris Stapleton will premier a new single.

• Maren Morris sings her latest single “I Could Use a Love Song.”

• Rascal Flatts performs their latest single “Yours If You Want It.”

• Miranda Lambert is performing the non single “Tin Man.”

• Jason Aldean, Kelsea Ballerini, Brothers Osborne, Luke Bryan, Little Big Town, Jon Pardi, and Dierks Bentley and Maren Morris will also perform solo.

• And Shania Twain is rumored to perform.

BoiCurtis · Veteran Member

I emailed the media team that are coordinating the ACM's tonight. The only thing they are telling me is that Shania is "Strongly" rumored to be there, either as just a guest or performing.

shaniafan151118 · Veteran Member

Whoa 😳 Closest thing we've gotten so far. I'll take it!

Tommy · Guru

ACM Red Carpet show is over. If Shania wasn't on the Red Carpet, there's no way she'll be on the awards show.

shaniafan151118 · Veteran Member

I think it's happening. She's not denying rumors. There's only 22 of 23 performers listed. She's reportedly IN Vegas.

Tommy · Guru

I'll be glad when tonight is over. These past 3-4 days have been absolutely ridiculous with all this rumor crap! She's not there.

Jacob · Veteran Member

I agree with you 100% Tommy, don't get me wrong I had hoped of a miracle happening but all along I thought the same thing. Rumors and nothing more

aj1995 · Veteran Member

If it happens, i'm sure she'll be the grand finale. it's very possible everyone associated with production is contractually obligated to stay tight lipped and indifferent. besides, it would be easier for 2017 shania to go incognito than in 1997 and 2002; yet have enough clout to get special treatment from producers re: rehearsal and promotion.

shaniafan151118 · Veteran Member

Twitter is saying after Backstreet Boys and there's a backstage photo somewhere. Again could be rumors but we are about an hour away from finding out 😀

Courtney3302 · Senior Member

Keep your fingers crossed everyone!!!!

shaniafan151118 · Veteran Member

I really believed it was going to happen. Sorry guys.

HumbleKevy · Senior Member

When will you guys ever learn lol she is messing with you and probably now having a good laugh about the rumors and her fans getting all excited about it for days. She knew very well that there were rumors and she let people believe this even after years and years of false rumors about her coming out with new music that she never corrected. I really don't care what she does anymore but you guys need to understand she does not care about you at all so please do not ever believe a word out of her mouth. As for the Album, well her label did say it will come out this year and Shania at least confirmed that a while ago so you will have a new album sometime this year. Pretty sad that with a huge audience and a great opportunity to sing her single that she copped out or decided not to. Maybe she won't perform it live lol I do have to admit this was amusing but what wasn't amusing was Shania letting you fans down again.

Tommy · Guru

Never believed it for a minute. I'm just glad it's finally OVER! Thank God!!!

matteotempo · Guru

I will never understand Shania. I love her music, her style, there is no one like her anymore. But I will never, ever understand her way to communicate with fans and media and the way she's dealing with this new album.
She has wasted an INCREDIBLE opportunity to launch the new song.
At this point, I don't even think the album will be released in May and maybe a Fall release is not a so far-fetched idea.

Tommy · Guru

matteotempo wrote:
I will never understand Shania. I love her music, her style, there is no one like her anymore. But I will never, ever understand her way to communicate with fans and media and the way she's dealing with this new album.
She has wasted an INCREDIBLE opportunity to launch the new song.
At this point, I don't even think the album will be released in May and maybe a Fall release is not a so far-fetched idea.

I agree about the album. Here we are in April now and the lead single isn't even released yet. So how is the album supposed to be released in May?

As far as launching the lead single, I find it hard to believe she would debut it at an outside music festival instead of on an awards show. Doesn't make sense. Makes me wonder if it will even be released by Stagecoach.

Butters · Guru

It all goes back to her voice issues. She can't sing live anymore. That is why she skips award shows and if she appears on one or a talk show she never sings. There is absolutely no reason why she shouldn't have performed her new single last night. She needs the publicity badly since most of the public have completely forgotten about her. It was the perfect opportunity. Faith was able to sing her new debut. But Shania couldn't manage to? Same old same old with her.

Her voice is shot. Done. Over. She knows it. She is just trying to dupe the fans. She has been riding off her past success since 2002.

The artist formally known as Shania....

BoiCurtis · Veteran Member

I cannot make sense out of the fact that she skipped the opportunity to debut this single last week and sing it last night at the ACM's. I am also starting to wonder if she will even sing the new music by Stagecoach or if she will just stick to the same old songs that she always sings. I don't think that she is purposely trying to frustrate her fans, but she is frustrating the fans! I understand that she can do things on her terms, however, when she makes it a point to mention specific dates that the music will be released (like before she turns 51, or new single in March) then people expect it. She should not mention any more dates if she is not expecting fans to wonder and be frustrated when she completely ignores the date. She wont even update the fans via Twitter/Instagram/Facebook about why she did not release the single in March as she stated. Maybe she has just simply lost her confidence to ever sing live again on award shows and tours.

It also completely blows my mind that she keeps posting random things on Twitter/Instagram/Facebook and completely ignoring the subject of the new music! She just posted another random thing today with a picture of her and Meghan Trainer and a quote that she once said. I don't get it!

Tanya · Guru

I guess the random posts are done by her team to at least keep her pages updated.

Tommy · Guru

Now that March and the ACM Awards are over, here is the next realistic scenario regarding the lead single:

She releases the single in the next 2-3 weeks and sings it at Stagecoach in the middle of a media tour where she'll perform the song on talk shows, etc..

If that doesn't happen, who knows!

shaniafan151118 · Veteran Member

Do you think she'll still perform at Stagecoach? For some reason I'm a bit unsure if she will still. Yes, I know she is a headliner but what if she pulls out? Next option.... she does have her exhibit at the HOF coming up.

Tommy · Guru

shaniafan151118 wrote:
Do you think she'll still perform at Stagecoach? For some reason I'm a bit unsure if she will still. Yes, I know she is a headliner but what if she pulls out? Next option.... she does have her exhibit at the HOF coming up.

I'm sure she'll still perform at Stagecoach. I don't think the new music will have anything to do with her HOF exhibit.

matteotempo · Guru

There's another possible scenario: she could perform a couple of new songs at Stagecoach and then release as lead single the crowd best-received one.

I think that at this point, this could be her idea... she had the intention to perform a couple of new songs during the last leg of the RTC Tour too.

BoiCurtis · Veteran Member

I'm just clinging to the hope that she will announce the new single any day now. Because if she waits much longer, I don't see the album itself being released in May. The longer the single gets pushed back, the longer the album will get pushed back. Its not too late now, but if she doesn't drop the new song this week or next week, I'm not sure we are going to be looking at a May release date for the album.

BoiCurtis · Veteran Member

There was an article in the Washington Post about the best and worst moments at the ACM Awards. In the "Worst Moments" category was "The absence of Shania Twain"

* The absence of Shania Twain.

The Las Vegas Journal-Review floated the rumor last week that Twain may appear and perform a new single from her upcoming album. And then … nothing.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2017/04/03/acm-awards-2017-complete-list-of-winners-best-and-worst-moments/

matteotempo · Guru

Do you think she'll perfom at Cma Fest? It's hold in June if I remember well...

Tommy · Guru

matteotempo wrote:
Do you think she'll perform at Cma Fest? It's hold in June if I remember well...

Who knows what she is doing anymore. CMA Fest is June 8-11 this year. Here's the current list of performers.

http://www.cmaworld.com/cma-music-festival/whos-playing-2017/?1_route=/client-embeds/cma-2017-all-stages/1/1/__/

aj1995 · Veteran Member

Let's not rule out the May release just yet! In 2015, Adele released her lead single, performed it live 1 week later, and released the album 3 weeks after that. So, following a similar roll out strategy would find Shania's single the week of April 17, then Stagecoach, and the album on May 19th. I also predict she will attend CMA Fest among other stops in a media blitz that will likely commence in CA in the days following Stagecoach festival.

Tommy · Guru

aj1995 wrote:
Let's not rule out the May release just yet! In 2015, Adele released her lead single, performed it live 1 week later, and released the album 3 weeks after that. So, following a similar roll out strategy would find Shania's single the week of April 17, then Stagecoach, and the album on May 19th. I also predict she will attend CMA Fest among other stops in a media blitz that will likely commence in CA in the days following Stagecoach festival.

That's what I'm basically thinking too now which I mentioned up above. Release the single in the next couple weeks, perform it at Stagecoach on April 29 in the middle of a media tour, and hopefully release the album in May. Sounds logical, but remember this is Shania. We'll see what happens.

LJ-R · Senior Member

In my opinion it's a good thing that they have the 'spotify' competition at the moment. The charts nowadays are primarily determined by spotify plays, so it looks like the managment/record label is searching for ways to get more fans involved with Shania on that platform. Hopefully a step forward to a new release...

BoiCurtis · Veteran Member

What days are singles typically released or introduced? If she were to release the new single this week, would it be today or tomorrow?

shaniafan151118 · Veteran Member

I think it would be tonight at midnight, EST.

I'm shocked she hasn't mentioned anything at all. But also, I guess she can't really do a countdown for days until her single is announced like some artists do because of the whole not releasing it in March.

BoiCurtis · Veteran Member

Looks like no new single this week either. Its really just starting to get aggravating. I understand that she can do things on her terms, although there are some deadlines when it comes to record labels. But this album has been finished for a little while now, the songs are completely finished, she previewed three of the new songs for the reporter of Rolling Stone. It is done, I don't get what the hold up is. I can't think of any reason why this new music is not being released to the public, unless she is literally too scared to release it because it sounds so different than her previous stuff and she's self conscious about her voice.

Tommy · Guru

BoiCurtis wrote:
Looks like no new single this week either. Its really just starting to get aggravating. I understand that she can do things on her terms, although there are some deadlines when it comes to record labels. But this album has been finished for a little while now, the songs are completely finished, she previewed three of the new songs for the reporter of Rolling Stone. It is done, I don't get what the hold up is. I can't think of any reason why this new music is not being released to the public, unless she is literally too scared to release it because it sounds so different than her previous stuff and she's self conscious about her voice.

Maybe her label isn't happy with the album and trying to figure out a way to "salvage" it the best they can.

Whatever the case, even if she does release the single towards the end of the month, we can probably forget about a May album release. There is usually a 6-week period between the lead single release and album release. You need time for promotion, pre-orders, etc..

matteotempo · Guru

I'm pretty sure this is the reason why the single and the album aren't out yet.
Her record label isn't happy with the final product and maybe there isn't a song strong enough to be the lead single.
Even if it's strange, because she has worked with great producers for this album. I mean, Ed Sheeran is produced by Jake Gosling and his album is selling like hell