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Just clearing things up on album release dates being thrown around!!!


First of the Sept 23 tentative release date is given to music retailers by Universal.
Record companies give tentative release dates to all artists from their label that they expect to release an album in 2008.
So this is not a rumor or anything like that and not made up by someone.They are release schedules given to all music retailers for new music in 2008.
Shania is tentatively scheduled for a 4th quarter Sept 23 release and of course the dates can change and be moved by the record company all the time,
But you need to understand nobody is making this up and it is not rumors.
These are actual release date schedules given by the record labels.
Now, that doesn't mean Shania can't say I am not ready and tell Universal that in June and then she would go off the schedule. But Universal, the music industry and everyone expects Shania to put out an album in late 2008. She has had plenty of time(years) and now lets see how interested and serious she is in making music.
Shania has let us down for so many years, I don't see anything changing.

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Shania has not let me down or the majority of her fans down. We will be there regardless of when her cd comes out. I personally don't believe she will have music out this year. I don't know why she is being condemned for being a stay at home mom. Whether you have 1 child or 10 children no one should be harassed for making the decision to stay home and raise your child yourself. I am more of a fan because she has her priorities straight. She has never lied to her fans things in life happen which influence change. She always had the best intentions when it comes to her fans. For some reason that I do not understand it has been an expectation that Shania communicate with her fans while on hiatus. Well that is inappropriate. A hiatus is a hiatus and should remain so. She has made public appearances and given interviews that should be enough and thankfully for the majority of us it has been enough to know another cd is coming out. Many big acts have taken hiatus's and not one communicated with their fans until they had specifics of when a new cd would be out.

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Shania has not let me down or the majority of her fans down. We will be there regardless of when her cd comes out. I personally don't believe she will have music out this year. I don't know why she is being condemned for being a stay at home mom. Whether you have 1 child or 10 children no one should be harassed for making the decision to stay home and raise your child yourself. I am more of a fan because she has her priorities straight. She has never lied to her fans things in life happen which influence change. She always had the best intentions when it comes to her fans. For some reason that I do not understand it has been an expectation that Shania communicate with her fans while on hiatus. Well that is inappropriate. A hiatus is a hiatus and should remain so. She has made public appearances and given interviews that should be enough and thankfully for the majority of us it has been enough to know another cd is coming out. Many big acts have taken hiatus's and not one communicated with their fans until they had specifics of when a new cd would be out.




Keep on repeating yourself and you may actually believe what you say.
I can tell you right now that many fans and ex fan agree with me.
And this long hiatus doing nothing has nothing to do with family. She only has one kid and he is in school most of the time. she is with him more than 99% of normal familes who actually word and can't afford to laze around.
I know there are a few fans like you who will defend Shania at all costs over every little thing but it is time to face reality.
It is nice to see that you have no faith in Shania and think she won't have a cd out this year lmao!!!
It seems more and more people are waking up to the fact Shania is misleading everyone.
And don't speak for the majority of fans. People in her fan club are a small number when you compare it to the general Shania fan.
The general Shania fan and majority has given up on Shania's attitude.



-- Edited by KingWalter at 21:14, 2008-01-22

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I don't agree with you Walter and I know without a doubt I speak for all the other mothers of this world who do stay at home or wished they could stay at home and raise their child. Putting your family first is something you don't seem able to get a grasp of . Shania will come back when she feels it is right for her and her family. She is working on her next cd and that is enough for all of us. You are a rarity and you take this far too personally. It should not matter to you when her next cd comes out and it should not matter to you what I think. If you don't like the way I post simply don't read them If you don't like the way Shania releases music then move on and don't buy her music its that easy.

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I don't agree with you Walter and I know without a doubt I speak for all the other mothers of this world who do stay at home or wished they could stay at home and raise their child. Putting your family first is something you don't seem able to get a grasp of . Shania will come back when she feels it is right for her and her family. She is working on her next cd and that is enough for all of us. You are a rarity and you take this far too personally. It should not matter to you when her next cd comes out and it should not matter to you what I think. If you don't like the way I post simply don't read them If you don't like the way Shania releases music then move on and don't buy her music its that easy.




It doesn't matter if you disagree with me. I state the facts.
You can ask qprime or Universal how many complaints they get about Shania.
You are in the rarity.
I can tell you right now that the number of people that feel the way I do out number your minority.
And I hardly think you speak for all mothers. You only speak for yourself and your thoughts and thats it.
Like I said you are the one putting words in Shania's mouth. This has nothing to do with family at all. Eja is in school all the time and she could of written 4 albums by now. You are taking it personally because you can't take others opinions.You keep talking about putting family first lmao!!! What does that have to do with anything. She makes music with her husband and Eja is around all the time or in school lmao!!!!
You need a reality check. Shania just last month said she is ready to step back into the spotlight so I guess you are contradicting everything she said last month.
And like I said, you seriously need a reality check because many,many feel exactly like I do.
So you can believe what you want but Shania's true fans actually see the whole picture and aren't naive and don't defend every little thing about Shania.
You obviously are not an artist or know anything about music because artists  who love music are always creating and making music, they don't take 5 years off lol!!!  And Shania is even luckier than most artists as her husband is her collaborator.



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I beg to differ and yes I do speak on behalf of many... Your rants are yours alone. When Shania does come back millions will buy her cd and millions will catch her tour. You would like to think that you have some influence or that your in the majority but you are not. The fact is that new people are still being drawn to her music as we speak. Like I said you take this far too personally. If you don't like the way Shania conducts her career than move on and don't buy her music. I for the life of me don't understand why you need to come on to fan based sites and whine and criticize Shania, bash her actually. A mature person would just move on and not buy her cds.

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You must take my opinions personally because why does it bother you if I have a different opinion as you.
You claim to have the majority opinion when it is well known that many Shania fans feel the way I do. You are in the minority and why does it bother you that I tell the truth and am not naive.
Just deal with the fact that Shania has turned off many fans in the last few years. I have always defended her and given her the benifit of the doubt but I can't defend her anymore.
I may still buy her music and support her but her credibility has gone.
I am not bashing Shania, I am a fan, I just am not blind and follow her like a puppy like some people.
I will always love Shania's music but I am afraid you and Shania will be in for a big surprise when many people will not support her next project.I will support her because I love her music but I have heard from tons of fans who have moved on and don't want to support her anymore.
You say I only speak for myself, that is not true and you know it very well. Many people feel the way I do and many people speak their minds like I do.
I think you are in the very rare minority who only speaks for yourself.
Shania has let her fans down.
So If my opinion bothers you or if you don't agree with me then don't respond because I know for a fact there are millions out there who agree with me or have just forgotten about Shania already.

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You write that you are not bashing shania then with the same breath you are calling her a liar etc etc. You are seriously taking her release date to heart. Like all great artists that have taken extended hiatus so has Shania. Its that simple and when she comes back millions will buy her music and millions will see her live. You are in the minority Walter and that is something that really upsets you. It should make no difference to you when her cd comes out. You need to seriously chill out

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Whatever makes you feel better Ironda/lulu lol!!!!
Have you taken a poll around the world to see how people feel about Shania? lmao!!!!
I actually have gotten major feedback from tons of people who feel the way I do.
You are in the vast minority.
I only call it as I see and when Shania is dishonest and directly lies in interviews then I point it out. I have the exact quotes to prove it but all you have is your feelings hurt because I don't agree with you.
Just to prove how defensive you are getting, you keep resonding back and saying the same thing over and over again hoping people will actually believe.
Newsflash-you are in the minority in the way you think. You may be in the majority on this board but you are in the vast majority of general Shania fans who don't post on message boards like average people that I talk to. They won't be buying Shania's music because she has made an effort to run away and ignore her fans.
Another really absurd comment by you to prove you have lost it. you say what difference does it make to me when her cd comes out lmao!!!!
Newsflash-it matters to all Shania fans, they want new music and think it is crazy she hasn't had any new music out yet.
Now go and bother someone else because you seriously are getting defensive because I don't agree with your outlandish opinions.

-- Edited by KingWalter at 21:14, 2008-01-23

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Hey Walter... I bet Groundhog day was your alltime favourite movie.. Same lines over and over and over... Kind of like you... Actually I will put out a challenge to you... Starting a post of your own that can attract any replys that does not involve the only theme that you know or think you know.. How about fresh Walter...Think fresh... C,mon.. You can do it...  You would think that when you do your predictable 4-5 day disappearing act you would come back with something fresh... NOT

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bobby, show kingwalter some love!!!!!

lulu is Ironda from the cmt boards and she keeps thinking Shania is a God who tells the truth and never does anything wrong.

I was out of fresh comments 2 years ago in 2006 when she she was going to have an album out lmao!!!!

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Walter or rather kevy, this is where you now come to complain and complain and complain. We ignore you on the cmt boards and they barred you from the forums so this is your last place or chance to cause trouble. I am right and deep down somewhere you know I am right. Shania does have the right to take a hiatus and put her family above her career. You are in the minority. Shania's fans millions of fans will turn up in 2008 or 2009 to see her live and they will buy her music by the millions. We are her true fans.

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Thanks for the laugh lulu/Ironda.
I am not insecure like you and care what people think of me on a message board.
This is a message board where we can view our opinions, this is a free country.
We are all Shania fans here but some of use are not blinded and don't toe the company line and have minds of their own.
So you see, you are in a vast minority clique that thinks your way. I have the general opinion of the general fan in the world who doesn't worship artists.
It must really bother you that I don't share your narrow minded opinion because you keep responding.
Now run along and don't start a fight. If you don't agree with me then don't post in this thread.
I have come across many open minded Shania fans who agree with me and my analysis of Shania and her attitude.


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Excuse me Walter but you are right this is a free country. I can voice my opinion as well. SHanis has the right to take a hiatus. Something that upsets you dearly. She is not the first or the last great star to take a hiatus. More power to her for having her priorities right. She certainly would not feel like coming back if she were to read your posts now would she. You need to chill out kevy, you need to get a grip on reality. Santana, Bon Jovi, the Eagles all of (whom I follow and catch live whenever I can and I recommend for a great live actt) took long hiatus, they did not update their site until they had new music to talk about. Same as Shania. When she has new music she will let us know. I am thinking 2009 will be a big year for her.

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Why are you keeping responding. Just because you say it over and over again doesn't make it true.
2009? lmao!!! on the cmt boards you were saying 2008 .
You even contradict yourself.
I think you need to give it a rest already because you don't know what Shania is thinking and when the cd will be out.
Maybe this year, maybe 2115
2009 will not be a big year for Shania because nobody will give a hoot if she waits that long. You better  hope for her sake that she has a cd out late this year.
I know people who take care of more kids, work 2 jobs, now that is pressure.
Shania sitting on her butt for years so people like you can defend her is not pressure.
Ironda, you have been wrong about everything so far so I expect you to be wrong again.
You need to seriosly worry about your kids instead of making excuses for Shania. Shania has the money and power to be lazy her whole life if she wants to and she doesn't care about or give a hoot about you or you defending her.
You really must feel insecure because you keep responding in my thread.
Deal with it, you are wrong on all counts and you are clueless about everything Shania.

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actually kevy just because you say the same thing over and over again does not make it true or popular. I don't know nor feel any stress over when Shania's next cd willl= be out. 2009 will probably be the year she is nominated for awards and she tours....whether it is 2008 or 09 it is great to know she is coming back.

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Seriously you guys, we don't need to fight over this!  It's not in our hands.  Shania holds all the cards.  Now, group hug!  date.gif

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Come on Kevy! Chill out my man.biggrin

Angie has offered you a hug.smile

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I agree Angie, it is not worth fighting over and yes Shania will come back when she is ready to come back. I just don't think she should be criticized for having her priorities right.

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I agree Angie, it is not worth fighting over and yes Shania will come back when she is ready to come back. I just don't think she should be criticized for having her priorities right.



Amen to that!  You said it!



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 If I wasn't the biggest problem on this site I would comment but instead I will just observe  and continue checking my message board for an overdue apology.. Bob



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lulu wrote:

I agree Angie, it is not worth fighting over and yes Shania will come back when she is ready to come back. I just don't think she should be criticized for having her priorities right.



Give it a rest already. Nomatter how much you say it, it doesn't make it true.
Are you trying to say that Dolly,Reba and 99 percent of other class acts don't have their priorities right because they make music lmao!!!!
Priorities have nothing to do with laziness or dishonestly.
I think you have your priorities mixed up when you get so offended because many people think Shania has been dishonest,lazy and taken the money and run.
Real artists don't do what Shania does. They love to perform make music. It is a shame that Shania at age 42 and only 4 albums has only toured twice.
She hardly has a body of work and she will be 50 yearsold soon.
It seems to me that Reba has her priorities right. she has a great family who she raised and balanced a great career and meets fans and is out there all the time with the fans. The last time she was here for a concert she met with her fanclub.
So lets stop defending SHania when there are great artists out there who make music for their fans,perform for their fans, raise great families and are great people .



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Walter... Can you talk about ANYTHING else.. If I hear about Dolly,brain surgery again I think I will puke.. I finally understand why you are on and off this site so much. I think after 4 or 5 days of hamerring this site with the same stuff ,even you start to bore yourself... Walter.... Join a hockey forum or something. Either that or starting contributing a little more  than what you have been saying for what seems EVER

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Walter, it does not matter what you think about Shania's career. Shania is happy about it and who are you to judge her career anyway. Reba has taken long periods off where she had quality time with her family, Dolly has taken long periods off as well. Shania is not lazy but most importantly she will not live her life according to your schedule. Nor will she report to you while she is on hiatus get over yourself.

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lulu wrote:

Walter, it does not matter what you think about Shania's career. Shania is happy about it and who are you to judge her career anyway. Reba has taken long periods off where she had quality time with her family, Dolly has taken long periods off as well. Shania is not lazy but most importantly she will not live her life according to your schedule. Nor will she report to you while she is on hiatus get over yourself.



Get over yourself. Why do you keep responding in my thread. Get a life already.
You have your opinion and I have mine.
I have been told by someone in Shania's management that qprime has been getting lots of emails and letters expressing the same opinion I have.
So quite frankly, many people feel the way I do. You are in the vast minority.
Shania has been dishonest and lazy and those are the facts, deal with it.It doesn't mean I am not a fan, it just means I am not blind and naive like you.
So it is time for you to stop responding in my thread unless you want this to go on and on.
Get over it already, I have a point of view that many share according to what qpime has said and what her label has said. People are complaining and writing emails and letters to her management and label. They are upset with Shania, those are the facts, deal with it.
You can make any excuse in the book for her but they all fall on deaf ears.
Now, unless you want to continue this fight then I suggest you take my advice and drop it.
I don't agree with you and you don't agree with me. So go and find another thread to fight in and try and force your opinion down others throats.
I am warning you now to drop this whole topic or else it will go on and on.
If you want to continue this then email privately but don't use this thread to fight in.
This thread is about the tentative release dates of her album as the title says but you came on here and changed topic and started a fight.
Shania doesn't need you defending her over every little thing. She doesn't care about you or me and is worth hundreds of millions and lives in Europe.
So I advice you to don't respond back to me if you can't take the fact that we have different opinions.



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I am not trying to pick a fight with you I am simply voicing my opinion something you are pretty good at yourself. I have the right to voice my opinion as well.. Stay at home moms are not lazy. Shania is not lazy for those reasons alone. Her priorities changed.

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lulu wrote:

I am not trying to pick a fight with you I am simply voicing my opinion something you are pretty good at yourself. I have the right to voice my opinion as well.. Stay at home moms are not lazy. Shania is not lazy for those reasons alone. Her priorities changed.



I told you to stop this already. Give it a rest.
You are picking a fight and you keep repeating yourself in this thread. Why the heck did you come back to get a last word in. Leave already.
I think Shania is very lazy,dishonest and misleading and that is my opinion along with many others who have sent letters to Qprime and Universal.
My mom was a stay at home mom who got lots of work done at home with her own business.
Shania is very lazy if she can't write one little album while at home and while eja is at school most of the time.
My mom took care of a whole business while looking after us kids and she was a great mom and she had more kids.
Stop this already, you would defend Shania if she robbed a bank.
I told you to not respond anymore. I disagree with you so leave it at that and don't respond again in this thread.



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Lulu... You don't have to leave. Walter is overdue to take his 5 day hiatus anyway so he can storm some of his other forum sites. He likes to break things up. Bob

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AND THE WINNER IS...............BOB,who at 6:53am was able to get the final shot in.. At least for now.... I actually think Walter that LULU caused you at least a couple of hours sleep last night following your late night rendezvous.. In the end I am afraid she was the one left standing. I can see why were pleading for her to stop posting. You had nothing left from your old postings to post and paste... WOW... Somehow can not help but feel that in Lulu's car...She is the driver.... Bob

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I'm afraid Shania thinks her latest album is the GH, that's one reason why she hasn't released the new one yet. Cause for her it's "only" four years since her latest release, and the gap between COO and Up! had been bigger.

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And there lies the problem. Shania did an interview at the Flameworthy Awards in 2004 saying she'd be going back into the studio once her tour was finished. I think most fans thought that would be to record the new album but in reality it turned out to be the 3 new songs for her GH album To be fair to Shania having heard how bad her voice was on those 3 songs, she may have not been able to record a full albuns worth at that period of time. I do sometimes wonder if she did really need along break to heal her voice as it was in a bad way in 2004.

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Well, her voice wasn't so good when she sang Coat Of Many Colors at Kennedy Center in 2006. But I listened to You Needed Me with Anne Murray and her voice is definitely back, she sounds like she did on the Come On Over album, so she's absolutely ready to record an entire album.
I think now it's only a matter of will and to focus only and exclusively on the new songs. And I don't know if she's into it at 100%...it seems to me she doesn't

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I'm afraid Shania thinks her latest album is the GH, that's one reason why she hasn't released the new one yet. Cause for her it's "only" four years since her latest release, and the gap between COO and Up! had been bigger.




I don't care what she thinks. she willingly decieved the fans if she thought we are so stupid to think a GH album is a real effort.And I even disagree with that because she said in an interview that she was going to use the songs on the GH album for her new studio album but decided it would be great for her GH album. This was back in 2004, so she has been actually writing for her new album since 2004. Artists are always writing. There are no excuses, she has taken years off because she has no motivation once she became so rich.
 Most of us can't afford to take 2 weeks off but Shania can take the rest of her life off and laze around forever if she wants to. The bottom line is that you would expect something more from a socalled artists who says she loves performing for her fans and making music. Sorry but what Shania says and actually does are so contradicting that it is laughable.
My mom worked ran a whole business from home and looked after 3 kids and never once complained. But Shania is crying because making an album in 5 years is too much pressure lmao!!! And she is crying about fame and how she doesn't want to be in the spotlight. What a load of garbage. Check out her interviews before she became so famous. She was craving for fame and now that she has all the money and doenn't need the fans anymore, she totally disses everyone
I have been a Shania fan for over a decade but she has seriously damaged her relationship with her fans, the industry and even her peers in the industry who are beginning to think Shania is a joke. I feel bad that Shania is percieved as someone who took the money and ran. All I know for sure is that Shania has not been honest to the fans and hides in Europe where she can have her management defend her and her label defend her. I feel sorry for Qprime and Mercury who has such a lazy and inactive artist for so many years.
It just seems that music was never her passion, it was to get hugely rich and then run away and live like a hermit.



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Well, her voice wasn't so good when she sang Coat Of Many Colors at Kennedy Center in 2006. But I listened to You Needed Me with Anne Murray and her voice is definitely back, she sounds like she did on the Come On Over album, so she's absolutely ready to record an entire album.
I think now it's only a matter of will and to focus only and exclusively on the new songs. And I don't know if she's into it at 100%...it seems to me she doesn't



I disagree 100%, her voice was top notch and great at the Kennedy Center Honors. I don't know what performance you watched.
She got rave reviews from everyone and even Dolly fans who are not fans of Shania.
In fact it was one of her best acoustic performances ever and so heartfelt. She sang it with soul and exactly how it was meant to be sung.
You must be too used to overproduced albums that Shania is famous for.
But the Kennedy performance was so pure and beautiful and goes down as one of her best performances ever.
Even her worst critics loved her voice that night.





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Walter I will say it again. Stay at home moms are not lazy. It does not really matter what you think of Shania you can have your opinion but you are not persuading the rest of us to your point of view. Shania has been making some public appearances as well she moved 2x this past year and is building a home in New Zealand. You have a real chip on your shoulder regarding Shania's come back. You have to relax and take a step back as you are starting to sound too repetetive for your own good. People will again start tuning you out and skipping your posts. Relax Shania will be out with a cd when she is good and ready not when you want her to have it ready. Thats life.

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Walter I will say it again. Stay at home moms are not lazy. It does not really matter what you think of Shania you can have your opinion but you are not persuading the rest of us to your point of view. Shania has been making some public appearances as well she moved 2x this past year and is building a home in New Zealand. You have a real chip on your shoulder regarding Shania's come back. You have to relax and take a step back as you are starting to sound too repetetive for your own good. People will again start tuning you out and skipping your posts. Relax Shania will be out with a cd when she is good and ready not when you want her to have it ready. Thats life.



What is your problem. You are the one who keeps responding and repeating yourself. Shania is lazy and many feel the way I do.
And I will keep on repeat, qprime said that they have gotten many,many letters who agree with me. Deal with it and stop coming on this thread and making excuses for a lazy and dishonest artist who is could careless about you.
YOu are the one who needs to relax because I told you to grow up and drop the topic already but you keep coming here and starting more fights.
It is time for you to accecpt the fact that many disagree with you and leave it at that.
This is my thread but you keep sticking your nose in starting fights when I already said we will agree to disagree.
Can you not accept the fact that many emails and letters have been sent to qprime and Mercury saying Shania is lazy and lying to her fans. Go and ask them how many people complain.
Now I will say for the last time, drop it.
Shania has proven to be lazy and dishonest.
If you want to look up to someone then have other role models.
My mom and many other woman are ten times better role models and they dont' complain and cry.
My mom stated at home and looked after 3 kids while running a full time business and doing all home chores and running around all over the place.
she didn't cry or complain once.

And here you are making excuse for a multi millionaire who doesn't care about you and  who only has one kid who is in school 80% of the time lmao!!!!

Now go and worry about your family not an artist who couldn't careless about you.
If you keep responding in this thread then you are the one who is bothered by it. BEcause you can't let it die and you know what I say and what others have said to qprime is true.

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