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I don't think that we should believe these gossip magazines. Especially when they use "source", "close friend". Any close friend to Shania and Mutt would keep their mouths shut!

There are only two people that know what's going on, how bad it is, and if it can be fixed. That's Shania and Mutt. For their sakes and the sake of their son, I wish all this media attention would go away. Since they're having problems, this crap can't be helping them at all.

I also think that as fans of Shania, we need to stop bashing Mutt. No matter what he has done or has not done, he's still her husband and the father of her child.

I know that we all want to understand what has happened to the couple that we thought had "made it", but I think we need to respect Shania and Mutt's privacy. From this point on, I'm going to do my best not to speculate about this tragedy.

Hopefully, they will make it through this trying time together and we'll get to hear a wonderful album about how true love lasts through life's up and downs.

In the people article it claims that mutt said that they were still close friends...did anyone else catch that?

Seems to be par for the course for Mutt to give up on his marriages and claim to be "still close friends". It may have worked in the past my friend, but Shania is made of stronger stuff.

timminslover and Tina, you are absolutely correct.

oh Bob i'm sorry that i agree with you,because they say forgiveness it's a great gift or whatever.
if the affair rumor is true and shania's heart has been broken i WON'T  forgive Mutt because shania is much younger than he is and she has no experience with divorces as he has,and he could at least have brought it to her gradually.
maybe i'm just a stupid girl wiht a boring life for caring so much about shania like she's my sis or something ,BUT i've never did drugs and i'm not addicted to alcohol,by that i mean  that shania is my only weekness.
i don't care what people could think of me but if shania is hurt then i'm hurt too,well not as much as she is, but i'm hurt too.

and yes Bob,Mutt wasn't just talking with that other woman,infidelity inside a marriage is one of the worst things for me, and always was, not just lately because of shania's situation.
it's a disgusting action.
but i'd love to be like Kay,i would be happier.

once again you are right Lulu,
we don't have to be inside their home to figure out that shania was in love with Mutt and that she sacrificed a lot,it couldn't be easy to live in Switzerland in such a remote area with most of it's resident's being millionaires,ok shania has money too but she's not you avarage millionaire.
and when Mutt worked with other acts or when shania had to do promotional trips alone it must had been hard.
what can i say i'm sorry for Mutt too, because one that can't commit misses a great deal of true love.
other guys would give evrything to have a wife like shania(i'm not talking only about her appearance)but i guess you never miss a good thing untill it goes away,if ever.
this whole situation sucks,i'm so sorry for shania,now she will be a divorced woman,not that is something to be embarrassed of but it means that loneliness will come and many scums along the way,that would want to use shania.
she's not deserve this,she's the one who took care of many people,i hope someone will take care of her the best possible way.

Hey Kay...I was simply responding to your comment.The way I read it,you were saying...stop bashing Mutt ,even if he has done Shania wrong, simply on the basis that he was(is) her husband... My point is if he did her wrong then let the bashing begin...However note...I said IF... I guess I would like to hear your position..If he admitted that he was having sexual relations while Shania was on the Up tour would you or would you not bash him.... I am not in any way coming at you here..I always like to try to look at different takes from different people on the exact same set of circumstances. It is the only way we can learn...From each other...Enjoying your posts..Bob

Hello everyone.This is my very first post in any forum.I have been reading the boards over the last few weeks and i would like to say that you have all made some valid observations.
I too am a mega big fan of shania,love all her songs,dvds,interviews etc and I also was shocked and upset at the news.I am in the same frame of mind as many of you in that we don't know what really has happened or what to beleive.However there are some aspects to this situation that are still really bothering me.
Going on the assumption that Mutt has had/is having an affair and they are indeed heading for divorce it just seems strange to me that if, as most everyone posting on here and indeed shania herself has stated that Mutt is a proud loyal caring and loving father to Eja it is possible that theoretically shania will retain custody and could choose to live thousands of miles away from Mutt making it inpractical for him to visit with his precious son on a regular basis.Yet if as 'sources' claim he is involved still with Marie-Ann and she retains custody of her own child then Mutt in effect will be living with and contributing to the upbringing of another mans child whilst having limited access to Eja.Bearing in mind Mutt is nearing his 60s and also the claim that he hadn't even wanted children bef0re marrying shania this whole thing still seems very bizzarre to me.
sorry for the long post but had to get that out.I am also in agreement that it isn't our business.Hopefully it will all get sorted out amicably.

thank you for the welcome Tommy

Hey Bob, thank you for replying.
Along with you and everyone else here I also have concern for Shania but after giving it a fair amount of thought I'm starting to wonder if we might be looking at this from the wrong angle.
I know that after seeing the most recent picture of her [the one above] everyone commented on how great she is looking but in all honesty my first thought was that she had lost weight and in my opinion is in danger if she was to loose more weight of bordering on being skinny which is far from healthy looking.I'm starting to wonder if she is taking this strict lifestyle she has adopted a little to much to heart.Again according to 'sources' quoted in the mags, Mutt himself has said she was complaining about her food preparation and then we had the comments from the restaurant where she recently visited for a meal that they had to make extra special efforts for her.
I have deliberately checked out the most recent photo's of Mutt here on Tommy's and again in my opinion Mutt doesn't look like he is loosing weight at an alarming rate.In fact I think the exact opposite and he actually looks very healthy indeed.
So my concern is that Shania is developing a obsessive disorder of some kind , maybe linked to this weird cult she is involved with as you say Bob.
My question is weather It was Mutt's influence that she got into it or from other 'sources'.This could possibly be contributing to if not the primary cause of their problems.At least whilst she is surrounded by other family members who do clearly care for her without any shadow of doubt they can get her help if they feel she does need it.I'd just like to add that as Bob has stated in his post that he doesn't mean to cause upset or offense to anyone neither do I but do feel It could possibly be an issue.

Hey Katie,
if you read my older post above that was exactly my first comment after i saw shania's new pic,that she lost even more weight,i have noticed that too when i saw pics from N.Zealand when she opened the Track.
she might have been sad for months over their separation,even i've shade weight the days after i read the  news because i was sad,so i guess that's how it goes.

she doesn't need to lose any weight,and knowing how she wants to have a healthy lifestyle,i wondered too,why the weight loss??

but whatever might have been the problem,Mutt should have been supportive and not just ask her for a divorce,IF he did that then he is a scum.

oh,and i don't think you are insulting any one,we just having a conversation.
Welcome Aboard.

Katie....Stick to this board...I don't know where the hell you have been hiding but you certainly seem to be on the mark...At least in my opinion.
I promised I would stop talk along this line yesterday Katie in case you missed the posting...Felt I have been hammering away at what I feel is "so in your face obvious" that it is insane not to recognize..Can't help but feel that even though you have not been posting,you sure have been thinking....THE DOTS ALL LINE UP...DON"T THEY......Bob

Why are we going by old tabloids that call Sant Mat a cult? I certainly hope Shania is brighter than that. Mutt too. Although she could have been blind with love. My understanding always was it is not a religion but a way of lifestyle. Just keeping yourself pure. The part I find difficult comprehending is Mutt was the guy who turned Shania to this path and he was suppose to be this great spiritual guy, so why would he turn around and do something so wrong? It's frustrating.

Like Garth Brooks's advised, talk to God, and talk talk talk to the one you are in this situation with. Hope for the best.

I'm not too concerned yet about Shania's weight. In the past two years she has certainly shed a little and her thighs in the most recent photo looked more slender, I think she has an excellent health regime and I will wait and see if it is indeed anything to be alarmed about. Of course devastating news would kill an appetite, but 'll keeping praying for the best.

I understand your point, but I always felt as humans we should better ourselves and do what we can to save our soul. But my Christian beliefs help me with that and I do enjoy living healthy but not as a freak as I will still enjoy a beer and wings too on occasion. I don't need a special guru to tell me what life is about and how we achieve "enlightenment." I have my morals, my mind, and I go by common sense. Shana was all about the MUTTster. God bless her effort, I wish it would have been perfect as we understood it for the last 14 years, but just too many red flags. Shania is bright, but love has power. Too bad it wasn't two people feeling the same way about each other. We live and learn.

ah... the mysteries of life.

-- Edited by 2ndAmendment at 18:55, 2008-06-02

-- Edited by 2ndAmendment at 18:55, 2008-06-02

Hi Guys.Thanks to all for the welcome.I respect everyones views on here and feel that if we do continue to discuss this situation in an open and friendly manner and we log our musings even if we all differ in our thought processes we might actually get to a point where we can start to shine some light as to what the big picture could possibly be because up to this point in time given the very little and conflicting information we are getting[mostly from the mags and media it has to be said]it appears to me that there most definitely is more to this sorry tale than we know at present.
I fully appreciate that it does seem to be a very private matter between a husband and wife regardless of who they are but depending on what the true circumstances really are we don't actually know if it is really a private matter.It could in theory involve more people than we are presently aware of,especially if this cult/religion lifestyle that they choose to lead is in any way part of what is causing problems.
I am with you Bob in your line of thinking that just maybe Shania has, even if unconsciously, taken it to or is bordering on the extreme.
Right now i'm toying with the idea that Perhaps[just a very very slim chance]Mutt has felt out of his depth in dealing with the issue.Of course this scenario in no way at all explains why he would actually want to divorce her instead of seeking help or even more bizarrely why he would cheat on her.These are just my thoughts right now.
Can anyone else attempt to shed some light on it?

Hey Katie... Would love to respond back but bottom line...Forums burnout is stopping me from doing so...If you only knew what this site has gone through over the last 6 months..No other words but insane..Unless you spend the next month reading non stop could you ever come close to getting what the hell I am talking about..Even then I don't think you could...Add to that "the privates" and that only adds to the mix...Personally I don't know how we keep going on..One thing I do know...We badly need new fresh words...Keep it coming...Bob

The only thing that could make this story worse is if Shania is ill and Mutt couldn't handle taking care of someone who is sick. I think that he isolated her so much there, that they probably did have different views on her music and he couldn't handle it if she voiced her opinion too loudly. Then in steps someone who agrees with anything he says. This is a horrible, horrible heartbreaking thing.

Well, I always come back to the same thing. Mutts ego must have been hindered by Shania's independent spirit. I hate to say it but I know of someone who cheated and the reason he gave was that it was so nice not to have someone nag him to pick up after himself. Can you believe it that was one of the examples he gave. That and the rush of having an illicit affair. Mutts ego must have been bruised as Shania would not take crap from him (JMO) and the other women just stroked his ego. Anyway you look at it it still is ugly I wonder if Mutt and Marie Ann will continue now that it is out in the open?

I was just reading through the 'special thanks' on the insert for the UP! CD and stumbled across Marie-Anne Thiebaud's name!!!

Here's a scan from Amanda.

Don't worry, Shania will get the last laugh.

I hope that Shania's once close friend gets what's coming to her. Shania did the right thing by divorcing Mutt; she deserves so much better.