Game 5 sights, sounds: SoCal's Tiger and Lakers Show
By Chris Colston, USA TODAY June 16, 2008
LOS ANGELES - Eschewing the chance to see Tiger Woods' U.S. Open final-round run, a bevy of entertainers again was on hand at the Staples Center on Sunday to watch Game 5 of the NBA Finals.
Actress Sally Field, director Jesse Dylan and director-writer-actor Malcolm D. Lee joined regulars Jack Nicholson, Dyan Cannon, Penny Marshall, Dustin Hoffman, Spike Lee, Tobey Maguire, Matt Damon, Chris Tucker, Mark Wahlberg, David Beckham, Rick Fox, Flea and Denzel Washington. Dylan is the son of Bob Dylan, and Malcolm Lee is Spike Lee's cousin.
Also on hand: 17-year-old Spanish basketball star Ricky Rubio; Ashanti, who sang the national anthem; country music star Shania Twain, wearing a Lakers hat and T-shirt; Iron Man star Robert Downey Jr.; Sylvester Stallone; Paula Abdul; Diddy; Vanessa Marcil; Nicole Richie; Michelle Kwan; David Spade; Terrell Owens and Kelly Slater.
Nicholson sits to the right of Boston Celtics coach Doc Rivers, and the two have been chatting pregame. "Usually he tells me his golf score from that day, and I always question the number that he tells me," Rivers says. "Other than that, that's about all we talk about."
And Bob, this is NORMAL celebrity behaviour. Weird behaviour would be hiding in a castle and living like a recluse for many months at a time. I really think we're seeing signs of a new Shania emerging, one who is not so private and hidden from the world. It's about time that this woman lives her own life and goes out and enjoys herself whenever she wishes.
Don't get me wrong, Bob, I agree that this is weird for HER. But like I said, there's a new Shania emerging. And I'm sure she has many more surprises coming down the road.
So she is definitely hoping towns, kind of strange indeed. I would have expected her at a hockey game in Detroit but we go from Muskoka to two islands in the Caribbean to a claim she returned to Switzerland to her being in LA last night. Very confusing and a lot of long distance traveling. Separations make people do unusual things. I can see all the guys now trying to make small talk with a single Shania. She may also be on the prowl. It maybe for the 'better' but the whole thing still turns my stomach. So she is going to be one of those celebrities seen on tv and different places all the time now? I kind of wish she would find a happy middle rather than becoming an in your face typical. Hmm...
SO....Maybe the truth is in the middle..Personally I think she is totally without direction..Does not have any clue where she will be next month ...Having said that,I feel she is a train wreck right now..For that I feel very sad for her...I do not trust one single word coming from her at present ,not because she is intentionally being misleading but simply because she is not well. I have no doubt this will become more and more obvious as time goes by..She needs help but is not getting it. A HUGE mistake...I guess after you have taken on Nashville and won it makes you think you have the ability to take on anything..So many make this mistake.. As far as her country hopping...At this pace it will be more aggressive than the Up tour but without the music...Bob
It may be good that she's doing some travelling for pleasure and some R&R. In the past, she's travelled just for work.
She may need time away from family and friends to do her own thinking. As we all know, sometimes friends and family can be a little overwhelming at times.
Another reason she may be keeping on the move, is to keep Mutt from catching her (either from stopping him from serving her with the divorce papers or making him miss her). If she is not well, I hope that she seeks counseling and that Mutt joins her.
Any idea on where Mutt is at? Has he been sighted at any of the Euro 08 games?
I wouldn't be surprised if Mutt was at Euro 2008 as Switzerland is the co host with Austria. Apparently soccer keeps his attention more than a great wife...
No worries people, Shania might be all over the place, but she is not losing her health and well being. This is not a potential medication type. She'll take her valerian root tea at night and bounce back with her fruit smoothie with a splash of ginseng and b-12 in the morning to rebuild energy.
Maybe we are trying to put meaning to nothing here. Thats a big problem with this story. we've got 20 thousand people trying to go in 20 thousand different directions with a story. and everybody is trying to place meaning to each others ideas........
i Really doubt shania went back to Switzerland if she was in L.A last nite, and she wouldn't go to L.A just to watch a lakers game. She was there for a reason......
I don't think she has lost her mind. She has probably the most sound mind out of anybody in the entertainment field. Regarding her being out on the prowl for men. She isn't going to hope around and spread her legs to spite Mutt. She isn't like that......She has even said Men have came in second over her music and she's not a sexual person....
I Just think she is trying to think things through before she makes some big choices.......Shes not the one who called the seperation, Mutt did.
I agree with you Muzikproducer she hasn't lost her mind,she has been threw a couple of tough months, now its time to get back into the game and show Mutt what he has lost.Shania is drop dead gorgeous and wait till Mutt see's her on the arm of another guy,its pay back time
Hey Producer, i totally agree shania wouldn't sleep around no way,she has a son she 's better than that. i think her visit there was work-related,isn't there where her label is??she's not in Mercury nashville she is in Mercury that's has it's headquarters in California.
Bos St John is for depression we don't know if she's depressed,you can't be depressed within a month,this thing comes in stages so i'd suggest just a therapist if shania should ever seek for professinal help. but Bob believe me traveling helps,she must keep her mind preoccupied,she has to take her separation gradually and time will help her,that's for sure. shes shouldn't stay inside her home, absolutelly not,and i hope now that schools are out for summer Eja will be with her. besides Mutt has his soccer tournament right now to keep him busy
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I have little doubt that her behaviour is going to speak for itself. I continue to point this out for one simple reason. My call is she is going to dissappoint some of her fans in the future by choices that she makes. It will be very easy to become angry with her. I can simply say that I will not be one of them as I will have an explanation for things while you might be going..What is going on?. I found the word "fragile" a very intresting choice of words by the guests who observed her at Sandy Lane resort recently...Really try to picture the scene..A beautiful Shania in a beautiful Barbados resort by herself while others are having fun...SAD... But again..She chose to go there in her"fragile" state
Welcome new members. Well we all know Shania is not a prowler in the sense brought up recently, but we have two angles here apparently, those who want her to be distanced from the men who will definitely have their eyes on her as well as an opinion 'wait until Mutt sees her on the arm of another guy.' This whole dang situation irritates me to no end.
Shania needs to forget these flaks right now, keep her focus and enjoy her time with her little man, EJA.
100 percent correct Joe.....Your point in my opinion is not up for debate...Having said that I really don't think she has men on her mind right now. Personally I think her mind is closer to trying to figure out if it will be Argentina or Africa on her next stop,more so than blonde or dark hair...Don't laugh folks...You are trying to tell me that Joe's call last night about Argentina would really shock you...It shouldn't...You guys just need to figure out why it shouldn't....Bob
Yup! i agree Joe, as i said in one of my older post,shania already has a man in her life,she has said herself that Eja is a new love in her life,well she lost Mutt's love but she WON'T lose Eja's. she doesn't have to find another man,for pete's sake you can't sleep with another man so quickly,do you remember when shania lost her parents?? her then boyfriend dumped her,but the situation was worse back then,she had no money lots of responsibilities and no choice but to move one. i'm not saying that she is not hurting,but she won't lose her mind,she CAN'T lose her mind,she has to be strong for Eja,and she knows that pretty well. if i ever saw shania on the street i wouldn't say to her 'oh poor shania' i'd say 'hey shania you look great,i want some music',that's the right attitude,and i hope her sisters won't treat her like a baby,that's would hold her back make her feel like she's in trouble,she has to be treated normally.
Bob i WILL NEVER be angry no matter what she'd do in the future,i know what she've been through in her childhood and later when she lost her parents,she has every right to behave weird,God she's only human. speking of weird i'm one of the weirdest gals so i won't be angry,NEVER,sad maybe but not angry. we can't erase all those years in the past when she 've been a fine wholesome role model,no matter what she'd do there would be an explanation for me,because i've nener thought of her as a God,she is only a woman,a rare one, but still only a woman.
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"Weird" is in the eye of the beholder. And from what I've seen here, One of us ain't beholding very much. *lol* So what if she's getting out and enjoying herself? Geez! Let the lady breath a little... will ya?
Why do so many people think Mutt had shania on a tight leesh? Her behavior won't change "if" They do end the marriage. She has said in numerous interviews that she is a private person. She likes being out of the spotlight...People say mutt dragged her off to Switzerland then new zealand....She said she loves living in Switzerland because she can be normal....and it was her idea to move to New Zealand....She fell in love with it when she shot some videos there.......Lets not forget she's 42 years old and has a child that means everything in the world to her.......
Maybe some of you might remember..It was me that said I would love to see her out on the town with the girls chomping on a burger and fries and sipping on cold beer as apposed to carrots and meditation sessions... BUT in due time. Generally as you know I very seldom disagree with Lulu...Nothing to do with sucking up but simply because I feel she is right..I did not however agree with her when she stated that Eja was used to world travel so there is no big deal with this new Shania jet set life...Personally to me I think there is time for ROOTS in ones life..That time should be NOW as far as Eja...Her confused state is not allowing her to see it though. Instead world travel...Sorry folks WEIRD
I really don't see her life changing much ("if" They get a divorce) as far as eating habits and drinking.....She even said she can't drink because she has low blood suger......Her not drinking and being a vegetarian has nothing to do with mutt........Its a lifestyle choice..and one she chose for her son.......
I think people are wanting some crazy sex maniac party'er side to come out in Shania......She is way to much of a humble polite sweet person for that to happen......She's been like that her whole life.....
If they do end up shutting the door on the marriage. Mutt won't be gone from her life.....They've got a son.......
i agree with producer, there's no way Shania would turn into Paris Hilton,shania has always been introvert,just check what her childhood friends have said. as for drinking,i remember reading that she has low blood sugar,take me as an example, if i drunk more then 2 beers i'd be sick for 2 days,so it doesn't worth it. i know people that don't drink by choice and they are 100%normal. as for red meat,not the best choice for me,i'd only eat it if i'm invited to a house for dinner only not to insult the host. but i guess she could just drop the Sant Mat thing,and stop meditate every single day,if she ever does it anyway. she just need a little time and she will be alright,it's too early to jump on conclusions. and YES Mutt is the father of her only child,she's a part of her life,period.
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Living just south of Timmins let me assure you of this...Timmins girls eat red and don't practice Sant Mat,which as I am sure you know practices daily meditation,veggie life style,and no booze...So let me ask you this...On her wedding day at Deerhurst it is well known there was no booze served...Unheard of in the history of Timmins(trust me)...SO.....Why???....My answer I would suggest is a no brainer...Mutt... She got sucked into it more and more over the years....Not only Sant Mat but on Mutts selfish lifestyle, leaving her walking along a Barbados beach by herself in a fragile state...Bob
Seriously Bob - How is it understood that she is "confused" and "fragile?" Is she text messaging you? Can you see in her head? Read her thoughts? WHAT?
Explain it to me real good, and type slow... I don't read too fast.
I will answer your question in very simple terms.....I don't need private communications from a street person lying on a snow covered sidewalk to know that they are cold,hungry,and depressed...Its called observation...While many spend countless hours observing her breasts,I choose to observe the person..Once you do,it is very easy to draw proper conclusions. Bob
Just one followup...Since you ask me questions which I totally encourage, maybe I may ask you one...Why do you choose to post in blue??....I know the answer and so do you...As I said...Obervation is very easy...If one chooses to do so...Bob
OBSERVATION? What? Like now you're a parrot on her back that travels with her? Peering into her ear? You know her every thought and feeling. Yeah... That is so fascinating! Please tell us more oh great swami.
*wait a minute, I need to get my hip-waders.
BTW- what's this with the font colors??? Seriously! You like green better? *lol*
well Bob the fact that shania was raised in Timmins it doesn't matter to me,because you know that her mind reached way beyond timmins borders. i was born in Athens and my dream is to visit N.America instead of Paris or N. York like most Athenians,so where one has born doesnt make any difference to me. but i do agree that she followed Mutt, this is normal,if i was married to a guy that loved tennis i'd play tennis too eventually,that's normal when you're in love with somebody. but yes,Mutt was so much older then her and charming,she got swept of her feet. i say she is the winner because she was IN LOVE that's why she got married to him,that's the biggest reason to get marry to someone,at least in my world. but i guess i will probably end up heartbroken too, but it's better than a loveless life,what's a life without romance?? btw i love posting in PINK but i got a worthless internet service that won't let me do it,but in a few days i will. what's wrong with colors,is just for fun.
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Hey Bob, i'm smart but i'm not THAT smart to read others minds,i really type in pink when i send e-mails to friends,i just love that color. really Bob,what's wrong?? we're going to lose the point here,and we'll let the real sharks come in.
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Hey Christina....I trust that you will not mind me saying this to the site as it is a compliment.....I know how many countless hours you spent on this site READING not talking before you started posting...I know it was hundreds and so do you...I was totally impressed...You didn't need to learn your Shania stuff but you did need to learn THE SITE...That includes the people and what they stood for on this site...When you posted you brought passion and told me instantly what you were all about...As you know I have never had ANY time of day for those are here for any other reason...I can only judge by what I see posted and that is what I do and what I will continue to do...Show me passion and care ALL IS GOOD....Anything else...Swim away
Enough with the holier than thou... Puh-lease! Nowhere did it say in the user agreement that we had to read X amount of hours, or that we had to agree with you 100% of the time. I thought this was a site about Shania, Not you Bob... Get over yourself already!
Really surprised to hear about Shania attending the Lakers Game even though she went very low key. Some fans have hinted that she may be in LA working on some material for her album, but she's probably just chillin' out. I can't see her wanting to be in a work-focus mode at the moment.
Has it not been printed that she will continue to live in Switzerland so that Mutt would have access to Eja and that Eja would remain in school there? Is this no longer true? Anyway, I was surprised to find out about the LA Lakers game but I am not going to read too much into it now. I know Shania showed a lot of strength supporting and caring for her siblings. She is a strong women who hopefully would seek counselling if she needed it.
Bob, no offense, but you're terrible at psychoanalysis. You should be ashamed for judging Shania's mental state when you personally don't know the woman. You're basing your criticisms on that fact that Shania is accumulating frequent flyer miles recently, and on the vague remark that somebody somewhere said that Shania looked "fragile". Who said she looked fragile? Why should we trust this person? What qualifies him or her in determining Shania's mental state? Of course, Shania is going through a tough time, but I believe that she's much, much, MUCH stronger than alot of her so-called "fans" are giving her credit for. I fully acknowledge that I could be wrong, but I'm not going to apologize for believing that Shania is a smart, strong, and independent woman who's best years are ahead of her, not behind her.
I think we all should give the woman the benefit of the doubt, and not be so quick to judge the mental state of a person who none of us knows.
Really surprised to hear about Shania attending the Lakers Game even though she went very low key. Some fans have hinted that she may be in LA working on some material for her album, but she's probably just chillin' out. I can't see her wanting to be in a work-focus mode at the moment.
I can't see her flying from Switzerland to Los Angeles just to catch a basketball game. She had to be in the city for other reasons, IMO.
Hey Up..I totally understand your take on my position...Having said that I just can't back down on what I see and have seen for some time...Needless to say I feel very strong reguarding this issue...The entire site can be upset with me..I can take it from everyone.. I hope everybody is right but me...Having said that I have very little doubt that you folks just don't see it or don't want to see it..This is far from the Shania that toured the world on the Up tour.. No mean spirited attacks on her will ever come from me...Just a caring observation.. Bob
thanks Tommy love your site.First off i think the people here that think Shania should sit around her house and do nothing havnt been though a divorce,thats the worst thing a person can do.Im sure she loves her son but theres a time you need to be with adults and have some fun.I had a cheating wife and sitting around worring about something you have no control over will drive a person crazy.i Didnt have the money to go jet setting around the world so i just went to some bars and met new people and made some new friends,she just tring to take her mind off all the crap she has to deal with now,GO SHANIA AND HAVE SOME FUN
kelc317 I agree with you! It's sad but some fans seem to want Shania to stay at home and to act like a victim in all of this. They seem to think that's the way that divorced women are supposed to act, and that it's wrong for a woman to quickly bounce back and get on with her life in a situation like this. I just don't get that mindset at all. This Shania fan is thrilled that she's getting out and doing...whatever it is that she's doing.
A lot has been written here since my last visit but I will say this, before Mutt Shania was hunting and trapping like a true northern Timmins girl. Fact is Mutt converted her to the new lifestyle she has even though I see nothing wrong with wanting to be extremely healthy but the whole Sant Mat thing was odd, but nothing to be alarmed of.
I heard from 'people' the low blood sugar was mostly a false bit of information. She may have had experienced problems in the past due to lack of nutrition but she is doing fine these days, takes her b-12 and obviously she is healthy. Otherwise a woman like her would not be able to put on a two hour show effortlessly with so much energy if she had low sugar problem. These people experience lack of energy, dizziness, ect. The opposite of Shania's robotic no slow down metabolism, lol.
Shania can live a little but she doesn't have to go all out and be everywhere at once. We'll just see if she shows up in Argentina this weekend... it is all in how we define "bouncing back."
Shania can live a little but she doesn't have to go all out and be everywhere at once.
Gee, that's so nice of you to give Shania permission to live a little! I'm sure she's thrilled to recieve instructions on how to live her life from complete strangers on the internet!
I'm really not picking on you personally, you seem like a good guy, but nobody here is in a position to tell Shania what she should or shouldn't be doing. Nobody here knows exactly what she's going through. Nobody here knows exactly what she's thinking and where her mind is at. Nobody here really knows what's best for her right now.
As fans, the best things we can do for her, IMO, is to let her live her life as SHE sees fit. Not how WE see fit. And to not judge her, because really, we here online all lack HUGE amounts of information in regards to the life of Shania Twain that any judgements that we make will be made in ignorance anyway.
I heard from someone who emailed the Boston Herald about Shania attending the Lakers game and they returned an email stating that USA Today got the wrong information from the NBA, that Shania was NOT there!
That would make more sense as it would seem to me so unlike her in this situation to be going to a basketball game. As well we read also she was returning to Switzerland. So who knows... (scratching head)
Not that I have to, but xyz was questioning my "passion" for being in this particular chat room, or even if I am a Shania fan - So I'll give y'all a little backdrop... I first became aware of Shania flipping through the channels and caught IYNIIFL(IOOH) in '95 and became instantly hooked! My friends, all rock-n-rollers and metal heads thought I had gone berserk, but as you know of course I hadn't. So when she announced her tour starting in '98 I went to the ce-mtee site and met some awesome people. They were all so... nice! Among the folks names I can still remember were SilverSox, 3000GTandMe, franklnjm, and hillbilly came a little later. Back then we had our bashers too. Many of us stayed online specifically thwarting those like; whiskeyprayre, NYBarbie, and most recently sybil. It really was a fun place at first though. I particularly enjoyed reading first time Shania concert goers reactions. However, it was when the super-conglomerate (the same as emty-vee) bought and took the channel over is when things went downhill quick. First was the relentless showing of sitcoms, and then they all but abandoned any moderation at their site and a lot of folks left. I myself all but stopped going, only making visits at certain times of year or whatnot. It was only recently that I was invited to chat here. I did have an account here years ago, using only one "k," but I have not used that mail host for so long they dropped my account. But here I am again, and within a weeks time MY character is being called into question? Gimme a break! I have logged thousands of hours online reading, posting, and hitting the abuse button when necessary. I have also traveled hundreds of miles seeing seven Shania concerts in four states. (I still have the concert stubs) Three in my hometown of StL, and then once each in Indy, East Lansing, KC and Chicago. The Chicago show was the UP concert and I had apprx 20th row, and on the left side as youre looking at the stage. In fact, that damn boom-camera was almost resting on my head the whole night. Ive looked for myself on the DVD but haven't seen anyone wearing a bright red Cardinals jersey with landshark 19 on the back. The night started rather auspiciously though when some people close to the stage had these big blankets spread out thinking they made some kind of reservations. WRONG! Ive been to puhlenty of general admission concerts, and when the lights go out everyone moves forward. I wasn't doing anything more than trying to get a better vantage point, when a couple of ladies who thought they were really something called, "security." He came over and said something, which I assure you had it been an earlier incarnation of the shark, I would've taken a much different uhproach but nooo, this is a kinder and gentler shark. (blah!) Considering though I drove all that way, the concert hadn't started yet, AND I was sleeping under Shania that night at the Hilton!?! *lol* (ok, so it was in a room several floors underneath) It was and still remains, A GREAT show!! The St Louis concert will be one that I always remember for many reasons also. One, because we posted that we were going to have a pre-concert party at a restaurant/bar next to the arena, where I met some terrific people that I had only know earlier as Shania friends online. COOL! The concert was awesome - naturally! But another of the things that still stays with me, is my buddy that went with me that night has since passed on. So I remember him having a good time, and at the end of the show us being covered in lavender and white confetti, and wearing big ole oops-eating grins! The next day I drove to Kansas City and it was really windy. I had some decent seats, but when there was a vacancy in 2nd row I took it immediately. Shania looked and sounded sweet - like duh! But once when she prowled around the stage, I walked right UP, and then she came over and knelt down in front of me- and gave me - (easy now) An autograph! I remember it was kind of an awkward exchange with the Scripto too, because I guess she didn't know I was going to hold the cap, so she could insert the pen without it marking on her ivory hands. (?) I was SO HAPPY! But you're not gonna believe what I did with it though... I turned around and gave it to some gal that had a young daughter with her. I asked the kid, "You like Shania?" And with big watery eyes she nodded "yes," So whatya gonna do, eh? Anyway, that was then and this is now. Time sure flies fast sometimes when you're having fun, And sometimes there is gonna be some turbulence, no doubt. That's just life right? -- C est la Vie. But that, my friends... is an extremely short run-down on my"passion." However, if one or all of you don't want me here??? Just say the word, I'll leave just as freely as I came in...