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kelc317 · Senior Member

RE: Shania sighting in Toronto!

Brummie boy · Veteran Member

If I had the choice of having� sex with Shania or that other woman, I think I know who I'd pick. biggrin

-- Edited by Brummie boy at 00:16, 2008-07-13

kelc317 · Senior Member

well me to but he's had Shania for 14 years

-- Edited by kelc317 at 09:25, 2008-07-13

twain2country · Guru

It's hard to say if it was�lust or love for Mutt and his mistress, but really it's none of our business�and for that reason, we should let the matter drop.

2ndAmendment · Guru

We have some really "fresh" minded people here. Hmm... makes me wonder...

Country gal · Guru

Yeah lets all have sex with every attractive individual and throw away our vows and our family and marriage values,lol

2ndAmendment · Guru

Surely some interesting comments and conversations made around here...

kelc317 · Senior Member

hey all of us would kiss the ground Shania walks on but he's had her for 14 years and if the love is gone then it's time to move on

kay1017us · Veteran Member

As Kelc317 said, "Mutt denied it". What's the point of denying if it's true and Shania already knows about it? PI's can find evidence of an affair to use in divorce proceedings.

We don't know what was going on between them before this whole mess started. We have no idea what emotional state Shania was in when someone told her that Mutt was cheating on her. We all know that gossip and rumours can really hurt and that somtimes things don't appear to be as they are. Shania may have confronted him and things got way out of hand.

I think that if he really wanted a divorce as People magazine said, he would have already filed for divorce. If I were in Shania's shoes (if Mutt cheated), I'd divorce him so fast it would make his head spin and I'd take him to the cleaners!

As someone else said, Eja is the real victim here. Hopefully, they can either work things out or handle this split in a professional manner (unlike the other celebrity splits).

kelc317 · Senior Member

i agree why would mutt deny it?and a friend told her what? did the friend see her car parked at his house all night or was it something more innocent and because the two couples asked for a divorce they must be having a affair?but I'll say this if i was in Shania shoes i would have hired a PI after Mutt asked for a divorce and i bet thats what she did and thats where the info came from, but i would still like to know more but we may never know

ZippyDoo · Senior Member

kay1017us wrote:

As Kelc317 said, "Mutt denied it". What's the point of denying if it's true and Shania already knows about it? PI's can find evidence of an affair to use in divorce proceedings.

We don't know what was going on between them before this whole mess started. We have no idea what emotional state Shania was in when someone told her that Mutt was cheating on her. We all know that gossip and rumours can really hurt and that somtimes things don't appear to be as they are. Shania may have confronted him and things got way out of hand.

I think that if he really wanted a divorce as People magazine said, he would have already filed for divorce. If I were in Shania's shoes (if Mutt cheated), I'd divorce him so fast it would make his head spin and I'd take him to the cleaners!

As someone else said, Eja is the real victim here. Hopefully, they can either work things out or handle this split in a professional manner (unlike the other celebrity splits).

Mutt would deny it because that is what everybody does when they are caught. There is no doubt Mutt had an affair behind Shania's back. It wasn't even a real denial by Mutt or his mistress, it was a very weak denial.
It is quite obvious the affair took place. Everyone around them knows it and so does the mistresses husband who confirmed the fact and said Mutt ruined 2 families.
As for filing the divorce. By all accounts the divorce was filed long ago in Switzerland courts. It doesn't matter where you are married�but if you are a resident in Switzerland then you can file for divorce there.
Eveything is sealed� under switzerland law, so we don't know when it was filed or� who filed first. Some articles say Shania files ,some say Mutt filed and some say they both filed. The facts are that it is very likely the divorce was filed long ago in Switzerland courts.
And as a Switzerland article� stated recently that they have already worked out much of the divorce behind closed doors like division of some property.

Country gal · Guru

does it make big difference who filled for divorce first?? not to me.
this mariage have broke up and that's what's sad and not the divorce papers.
at least they decided to break up instead of living together and fight.

kelc317 · Senior Member

zippo there you go again tells us how you know divorce was filed long ago?and again Mutt said he didn't have affair what would you like him to have said,how do you prove a negative,and i will agree that the girlfriend didn't deny the affair just she didn't break up the marriage

Country gal · Guru

Yup! this Marrie lady was very careful with her words,if i was unjustly accused of being the 'other woman' i'd be furious,i would be No lady.

ZippyDoo · Senior Member

kelc317 wrote:

zippo there you go again tells us how you know divorce was filed long ago?and again Mutt said he didn't have affair what would you like him to have said,how do you prove a negative,and i will agree that the girlfriend didn't deny the affair just she didn't break up the marriage

You need to read more carefully. I never said for sure the divorce was filed long ago. I said��according to Swiss law everything is sealed. So we don't know when exactly it was filed or who filed first.
And like Countrygal said, it doesn't matter who filed� first, the fact is that the marraige is broken up.

Country gal · Guru

I tell you what i believe,and please READ it's only MY OPINION.
i have said that to Joe he can confirm that this is what i really believe.
so i really believe that Shania and Mutt had started to having arguements regarding Music,so Mutt, who is crazy with his music and he has a little big ego in the studio,started to falling out,in other words he got tired of shania.
anyway so they decided to live apart for a while to think things out but Mutt didn't lost any time and got together with Marrie,shania found out and got heartbroken and furious,That's All.
THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION.

ZippyDoo · Senior Member

Country gal wrote:

I tell you what i believe,and please READ it's only MY OPINION.
i have said that to Joe he can confirm that this is what i really believe.
so i really believe that Shania and Mutt had started to having arguements regarding Music,so Mutt, who is crazy with his music and he has a little big ego in the studio,started to falling out,in other words he got tired of shania.
anyway so they decided to live apart for a while to think things out but Mutt didn't lost any time and got together with Marrie,shania found out and got heartbroken and furious,That's All.
THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION.

I agree with what you said. I have always believed that the only thing they had in common was music and when that was in doubt then they both fell apart(not just mutt)
And then Mutt had an affair.
Also, while they may of made some appearances together like New Zealand and so on, I believe they were living apart since 2007.
Not only because of some articles saying so that they were seperated last year.
But Phil Collins of Def Lepard was interviewed in Nov of 2007. They asked him if Mutt is ever going to work fulltime on an album with them again. He said,"not until�his kid is� old enough to be left with a nanny"
I found this kind of strange at the time because Shania would be at home looking after him I thought.
So they could of been living seperate lives for quite some time.

-- Edited by ZippyDoo at 12:53, 2008-07-14

kelc317 · Senior Member

you said by all accounts the divorce was filed long ago,which accounts are you talking about thats not the way it went down

kelc317 · Senior Member

Christina i agree,that makes sence and would explain a lot of things

Country gal · Guru

sorry but i have to say that i believe is more of Mutt's fault because apparently he is not a good husband only a good producer and� co-writer,but shania needed a husband too and a home and not just a recording studio.
Mutt was a bad husband for his 2nd wife too.
is sad for him too because it would be great if they could stay happily married eh??

ZippyDoo · Senior Member

kelc317 wrote:

you said by all accounts the divorce was filed long ago,which accounts are you talking about thats not the way it went down

I think the divorce was filed long ago and by long ago I mean only 3 months ago. Everything is sealed under swiss law so we don't know when.
But the fact that some of the property has changed names under the swiss registry to Shania's name only in the last 2 months, points out that they are working the divorce details behind closed doors.

lulu · Guru

I think when Mutt asked Shania for a divorce (one month prior to her official statement).Mutt had talked to a lawyer and perhaps even filed at that time. I have to agree with tina's take that when Shania started disagreeing with Mutt about her songs Mutts ego may have been bruised and there was this Marie-Ann to pick up the pieces. There is no doubt in my mind that this marriage is over. I also have no doubt that Shania has been very hurt by this. However, be that as it may, I do believe Shania will come back and her new music will be great. I would think the only thing on both their minds is Eja and no doubt Shania will seek custody of him.

Country gal · Guru

Yes Lulu,and i believe she WILL get full custody.
unfortunelly Mutt is way passionate about music,in a rather unusal way,if that is what makes him happy then ok but he has to think about others feelings sometimes.

ZippyDoo · Senior Member

lulu wrote:

I think when Mutt asked Shania for a divorce (one month prior to her official statement).Mutt had talked to a lawyer and perhaps even filed at that time. I have to agree with tina's take that when Shania started disagreeing with Mutt about her songs Mutts ego may have been bruised and there was this Marie-Ann to pick up the pieces. There is no doubt in my mind that this marriage is over. I also have no doubt that Shania has been very hurt by this. However, be that as it may, I do believe Shania will come back and her new music will be great. I would think the only thing on both their minds is Eja and no doubt Shania will seek custody of him.

I think Shania also talked to� a lawyer long ago when� they have� had problems back in 2007. What does it matter if they talk to a lawyer, all couples going through divorce do that. But what makes you think Shania will have to fight for custody of Eja. As far as we know all of that could of been worked out long ago behind closed doors.
You make it sound as if Mutt is an evil person who will try and take her child away from her. Mutt may have cheated and� made a huge mistake but I� highly doubt this will get messy at all.

Country gal · Guru

No zippo i don't think Luliu meant anyything like that about Mutt,but the problem is that shania has to work it out so Mutt would help when she is away to promote her projects.
Really Zippo what do you think,what she will do with her touring??who is going to take care of Eja??

-- Edited by Country gal at 13:38, 2008-07-14

ZippyDoo · Senior Member

Country gal wrote:

No zippo i don't think Luliu meant anyything like that about Mutt,but the problem is that shania has to work it out so Mutt would help when she is away to promote her projects.
Really Zippo what do you think,what she will do with her touring??who is going to take care of Eja??

-- Edited by Country gal at 13:38, 2008-07-14

She has a nanny and she has a sister who always takes care of Eja when she is gone for short trips. But Mutt will also take care of Eja too.
I bet if Shania ever looked at these boards she would be freaked out at how� people try and guess her life out including my opinions. But that is to be expected once you try and get money and so much fame. YOu can't just hide from it now and just not accept this part of fame.
There will be fans like us�you comment on her life even though it is personal and has� nothing to do with us.

Country gal · Guru

Yeah!you are right and shania knows that her fans and non-fans are talking about her.
no problem though because we aren't nasty we re just a little worried sometimes.
because if things won't work out good then we won't have music soon.
so i guess we are just selfish because we want new music too,hey that's how we found out about shania, because of her music.

2ndAmendment · Guru

Country gal wrote:

sorry but i have to say that i believe is more of Mutt's fault because apparently he is not a good husband only a good producer and co-writer,but shania needed a husband too and a home and not just a recording studio.
Mutt was a bad husband for his 2nd wife too.
is sad for him too because it would be great if they could stay happily married eh??

Yup, I agree with that.� Mutt may have grown apart from Shania, as he has been known for this with his commitment issues, but Shania ain't no quitter and would not easily give into ending her marriage especially with Eja around.� She believes in true love ,marriage for life, and keeping family together.� She would not have gave up so easily just because she an Mutt were too different.� She always knew that, but her compromises and sacrifices weren't enough for a guy like Mutt.� It had to be a darn good reason for her.� So sad.� So many guys would kill to marry a woman like (Eilleen) and I'm not talking about looks.

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kelc317 · Senior Member

i don't think Mutt has commitment issues he has done that 3 times,i think he is just selfish and does not know how to give and be supportive

2ndAmendment · Guru

But that also includes commitment if he is selfish and does not know how to give and support.

It's one in the same really.

kelc317 · Senior Member

my opinion george Clooney has commitment issues because he can't commit,i think Mutt has relationship issues,but we know little that goes on in there marriage,all we know is mutt isn't very supportive

Country gal · Guru

Mutt is WAY better than Clooney.
and he treats his women (even if they end up divorced)WAY better.

kelc317 · Senior Member

you think so,if you go out with clooney you know its only for a short time,you know what your getting

-- Edited by kelc317 at 13:56, 2008-07-17

Country gal · Guru

Well then i'd never go out with Clooney,
and i have a confession to make.... i really don't like Clooney,i just don't get what's the fuss about??
he looks pretty average to me,here we have many men looking like him,what just because he got grey hair??
i 'm more into blond guys,seriously!

kelc317 · Senior Member

you like brad pitt?,i think clooney sounds like a cool guy in interviews

Country gal · Guru

No Brad Pitt is even worse.
i just prefer blond or light hair in general,but Clooney is cool for your buddy not your man,i really don't like some of the things he says.
he loves Europe drinkind italian wine in his italian villa,i hate Europe.he he
and i 'd prefer a beer guy.
Billy Currington is more of my kind,he he

kelc317 · Senior Member

i love Shania but i couldn't date a girl for very long that didn't like to go out and have a couple of drinks

Country gal · Guru

Oh come on,
maybe she would have a coke does she really have to drink alcohol?
actually i try to avoid alcohol it gives you wrinkles but i do drink beer sometimes. smile

kelc317 · Senior Member

well maybe thats why she looks so go,maybe i could get her to have a couple of glasses of wine,that is suppose to be good for you

Country gal · Guru

Yeah,red wine is good for your heart.
but so dark chocolate smile

well i really can't understand why she wouldn't have just a glass of beer,is not that bad.

kelc317 · Senior Member

maybe she will,did she drink before mutt?

Country gal · Guru

actually that's a good question,
she wasn't much of a drinker but i believe that she did had alcohol in holidays and stuff like that.
i just know that when she was 15-16 she had 2 beers and then she passed out,ha ha
and then her friends took her to bed,so i guess she's not a drunkard anyway.

kelc317 · Senior Member

i heard the story about the 2 drinks,but when your young that first couple of drinks can knock you for a loop,and she is so tiny anyway

Country gal · Guru

yeah she is tiny.
actually after the death of her parents she used to go out in clubs and got drunk,of course the next morning was feeling awful but i totally undestand that reaction,she must have felt like s**T cry

kelc317 · Senior Member

well I've had a few of those mornings myself

Country gal · Guru

Hmmm not good eh??
actually i had just a few myself especially after i have mixed beer with wine but it was also because the company sucked so i was trying to relax by drinking.
in one of my buddy's parties i had too much to drink but i didn't felt bad the next morning because i had a great time the night before,hey nothing naughty just jokes and music and food.

ZippyDoo · Senior Member

I couldn't go out with a woman who doesn't party naked on the first date.
You need to have fun because life is too short.

Country gal · Guru

Please tell me that you are joking Kev blankstare

ZippyDoo · Senior Member

No, I am dead serious.

kelc317 · Senior Member

you got any phone numbers i could have