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hey zip shouldn't you like britttany spears and paris hilton they would do that for you

ZippyDoo wrote:

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Country gal wrote:

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ZippyDoo wrote:

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House parties and bars. You have to live life to your fullest.
Party naked all night long.

 

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Nah,living your life means do whatever you like and not party naked,except of course if partying naked is what you like.
i prefer to keep my clothes on all the time except for the bathroom and the bed,ha ha

 

ZippyDoo wrote:

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I don't find Britney or Paris attractive at all. Paris Hilton look like big bird and she has no curves and big feet.
Britney looks really worn out and out of shape for someone younger.

I find what I need at some great house parties and company parties.

 

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I agree about Paris,as for Britney she used to have a good body but now nah!!
i look at Sandra Bullock and Shania and i'm thinking of how much younger they look and not only in the face,shania's body looks so Good.

 

kelc317 wrote:

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sandra is pretty but to flat chested for my taste

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yeah i have noticed too,that's her only "bad"feature,kudos to her for not getting implants though.

as for shania,he he
what you see is what you get,All Real.

 

twain2country wrote:

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Shania has never been a partier and restricts herself, but she did jokingly say on Good Morning America in '05 that she should perhaps let her hair down and lose control, now that she's getting older. Maybe this separation-divorce may open up a new side to Shania, and she'll have more fun, but be sensible still.

-- Edited by twain2country at 16:14, 2008-07-17

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I hope that she will have a little fun now.
nothing dirty just Good Clean Fun,she has to do it now because she ain't getting any younger.

 

kelc317 wrote:

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its not your going to see Shania doing a playboy spread or falling down drunk,to much class for any of that,although i won't mind the playboy spread

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 Dream on!!

i think fun for shania would be a shoppping spring with the girlfriends,or a day in an amusement park with little Eja.

 

I think Shania enjoyed a glass of wine at times even while married to Mutt. When Piers Morgan wrote that article about his plane ride with Shania he wrote that they both had a glass of wine......so now that she is free of Mutt she may enjoy the occasional glass still. I think a lot of what she did (how she lived, the privacy etc.), had more to do with Mutt than her. It will be interesting to see how she lives her life now. I tend to agree with everyone in that whatever she does she will do it with class and dignity.

kelc317 wrote:

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i think she was just trying to to be a good wife,i wonder if she move back to Canada to raise Eja,if she does she probably never wanted to move to Switzerland,most women i know like to be close to there family

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Nope, I think her home base will still be in Switzerland because Eja has started school  there and it will be closer for Mutt to visit.
I believe lots of this has been worked out behind closed doors.

kelc317 wrote:

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ZippyDoo wrote:

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kelc317 wrote:

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i think she was just trying to to be a good wife,i wonder if she move back to Canada to raise Eja,if she does she probably never wanted to move to Switzerland,most women i know like to be close to there family

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Nope, I think her home base will still be in Switzerland because Eja has started school there and it will be closer for Mutt to visit.
I believe lots of this has been worked out behind closed doors.

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i agree with the mutt closer plus maybe the court wouldn't let her move Eja,but its only his first year in school and does Eja have cousin's in the area, she could say screw mutt let him move to canada

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Heres where I disagree with many of the fans. I think Shania is not mad at Mutt and I think they are talking. I think this whole situation is weird and we don't  know half the story yet and we may never know. But I believe nothing about this divorce with be contested. I believe they have worked everything out with lawyers behind closed doors. Shania has the upper hand and the leverage. And there is no way Mutt would want this to go to court for such a private guy.Mutt has been smeared in the papers worldwide and everyone thinks he is a cheater and betrayed Shania.
Also according to Swiss law if all details are not worked out about the divorce then they have to wait 2 years for a divorce to be granted.
There is no way they would put Eja inbetween the divorce.

Also one quote that really bothers me in people magazine by Mutt is where he said that Shania and him will remain very good friends.
This tells me he knows something we do not and that Shania is not as heart broken or mad as the media tries to portray her.
He wouldn't just make a statement like we will remain good friends if things weren't worked out already behind closed doors.
Much of this doesn't make sense and I love to speculate like everyone else.

Hmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Edited by chaosinc at 21:00, 2008-07-17

you could be right Sarah but we really don't know what lead up to the split,maybe theres more we don't know

xxsarahnade wrote:

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Something tells me Mutt was only saying that to make himself sound good. I think it's gonna be hard to get Shania to forgive him if he did cheat. That's just my opinion.

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Maybe but I don't think so. I think there is much more that we don't know and that they agreed to go their seperate ways long ago.
Lots went on long before they announced the split. There was lots of thinking and soul searching before they decided to go public with such an announcement.
The Shania being so heart broken part is in my opinion the media spinning this way over the top. And like I said it really bothered me when she actually said her broken heart in her letter. It was real over the top play for sympathy and I thought Shania would put up a stronger front and not play such a victim.
but remember it is Shania who still has to have the career in the public so her being the victim is good for her. Mutt could careless, he is  behind the scenes and doesn't care what people think about  him.

twain2country wrote:

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Shania has never been a partier and restricts herself, but she did jokingly say on Good Morning America in '05 that she should perhaps let her hair down and lose control, now that she's getting older. Maybe this separation-divorce may open up a new side to Shania, and she'll have more fun, but be sensible still.

-- Edited by twain2country at 16:14, 2008-07-17

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That was an amusing moment, of course she was just being cute.  Shania is who she is and I admire and appreciate that.  Reasons why I'm a fan of such a person.  Kevin is whicked, lol, don't see his connection to Shania besides her being beautiful. 

 

ZippyDoo wrote:

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xxsarahnade wrote:

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Something tells me Mutt was only saying that to make himself sound good. I think it's gonna be hard to get Shania to forgive him if he did cheat. That's just my opinion.

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Maybe but I don't think so. I think there is much more that we don't know and that they agreed to go their seperate ways long ago.
Lots went on long before they announced the split. There was lots of thinking and soul searching before they decided to go public with such an announcement.
The Shania being so heart broken part is in my opinion the media spinning this way over the top. And like I said it really bothered me when she actually said her broken heart in her letter. It was real over the top play for sympathy and I thought Shania would put up a stronger front and not play such a victim.
but remember it is Shania who still has to have the career in the public so her being the victim is good for her. Mutt could careless, he is behind the scenes and doesn't care what people think about him.

 

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you know the broken heart thing may not mean mutt but the family, no xmas's, vacation,the family things you lose when you divorce

 

xxsarahnade wrote:

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No matter what she is deff broken hearted and its okay for her to confess that. Being with someone for fourteen years really gets you attached no lieeee. There's too many memories. Personally, I get attached to people easily so I can understand what she's going through right now. But then again none of us really know the full story so we are all assuming.

-- Edited by xxsarahnade at 22:33, 2008-07-17

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I understand what you are saying but I still think it was really tacky of her to use that phrase in her letter and ask for sympathy.
I felt real uncomfortable about that part of the letter. The rest of the letter was just fine.
My opinion is Shania  plays the victim too much and plays on her fans devotion to her.
I don't know what she is feeling inside but it is no different than what millions of other woman go through every day and they get on with their lives the next day and don't ask for sympathy.
I really support Shania but I felt really uncomfortable with her use of the words broken heart to play the victim again.

The worst feeling in the world for a mother is to lose her son. That is what my auntie went through. My cousin died at 13 with a brain tumor and that was the worst possible situation any mother could go through.
She had to go on with her life the soon after the  funeral. She never asked for sympathy from anyone and worked hard everday.Her son was her whole life and they were very close.
so forgive me if I don't feel lots of sympathy for a person who has way more money than my auntie and way more resources and going through a way less tough time than my auntie and extended family went through. My cousin was very close to all of us and we played hockey and sports together.

So while I support Shania, I also don't like how she plays the victim too much.
My auntie with much less resources showed more strength over a tougher situation.
Shania and her family still have their health and their resources and have the world at their feet. So it would nice if fans put things into perspective and not make Shania out to be  this poor little victim.
When ever Shania says stuff like I don't want to put pressure on myself to put out music or how tough her life is then I just roll my eyes.


-- Edited by ZippyDoo at 22:55, 2008-07-17

2ndAmendment wrote:

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Of course not everyone is like you Kevin, thank goodness, your auntie went through a hard time and people are people regardless of how much money they have. Everyone is affected differently and compassion is at many levels. Shania is who is she from the time she was poor before the wealth and fame. Think for a moment about Eilleen rather than Shania.

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Yes, but there is no worse situation in the world than losing  your young son like my Auntie.
So forgive me if I don't have a great amount of sympathy for Shania when her marriage broke up.It takes 2 to break up a marriage and the only victim is Eja.
And I would appreciate it if you don't degrade me everytime just because I don't treat Shania like a God.
I am a true Shania fan but I also am entitled to my opinion.
I think Shania plays the victim too much and I thought asking for sympathy by saying my broken heart is so way over the top.
You keep saying  how evil I am and how bad I am and how whicked I am just because I don't worship the ground Shania walks on.

Shania could retire comfortably for sure, but she's always been a hard working person and I think she'll want to carry on writing and recording music, especially now that she's free of Mutt and is able to control her career a lot more.

-- Edited by twain2country at 10:59, 2008-07-18

This is my first post in this forum. I have been following this forum for quite a while now but never wanted to be drawn into the discussions. I agree with you ZippyDoo that Shania may have been a bit over the top with her 'heart broken' statement. Strange that for someone who has been described by the press as 'cold' can give such a statement. Please don't bash me when I say this. I have always known who Shania Twain is but I have never been a fan until recently. I live in South East Asia and country music does not exist in this part of the world.

Honestly I was drawn to Eilleen's story - from a small town girl to today's megastar. Reading through her biography (Robin Eggar), one can tell that she has never been an angel. And I truly understand how frustrating it can get when one of your favourite singer does not release a new album for such a long time. It is as if, she wants people to forget about her and move on with life. Unfortunately for me, I stumble upon Shania's music when she is on her sabbatical. Words can't describe how her life story leave such a huge impression on me. And her music.

Yes she is not as hardworking as she used to but we don't know what is going on in that mind of hers. Let's face it, she has been performing since she was eight. She understood the word 'responsibility' at that age when most kids only think about playing and having a good time. Yeah she has got millions...and she owe that to the fans. But she worked her butt off to get where she is today. There is no shortcut to success.

I guess what I am trying to say is as long as there are people who remembers who Shania Twain is, her music will live on. And when she is ready to come back with an album, I am sure there will be fans waiting to hear it. And I am one of them now.

alison_400IM wrote:

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This is my first post in this forum. I have been following this forum for quite a while now but never wanted to be drawn into the discussions. I agree with you ZippyDoo that Shania may have been a bit over the top with her 'heart broken' statement. Strange that for someone who has been described by the press as 'cold' can give such a statement. Please don't bash me when I say this. I have always known who Shania Twain is but I have never been a fan until recently. I live in South East Asia and country music does not exist in this part of the world.

Honestly I was drawn to Eilleen's story - from a small town girl to today's megastar. Reading through her biography (Robin Eggar), one can tell that she has never been an angel. And I truly understand how frustrating it can get when one of your favourite singer does not release a new album for such a long time. It is as if, she wants people to forget about her and move on with life. Unfortunately for me, I stumble upon Shania's music when she is on her sabbatical. Words can't describe how her life story leave such a huge impression on me. And her music.

Yes she is not as hardworking as she used to but we don't know what is going on in that mind of hers. Let's face it, she has been performing since she was eight. She understood the word 'responsibility' at that age when most kids only think about playing and having a good time. Yeah she has got millions...and she owe that to the fans. But she worked her butt off to get where she is today. There is no shortcut to success.

I guess what I am trying to say is as long as there are people who remembers who Shania Twain is, her music will live on. And when she is ready to come back with an album, I am sure there will be fans waiting to hear it. And I am one of them now.

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Thanks for those well thougt out comments.
Yes, I think anyone looking at it objectively would say Shania was overplaying the sympathy card when she said my broken heart. She was playing to the emotions of her devoted fanbase and I think it was really tacky.
Also I agree with lots of your other comments. But I have to say that if Shania waits any longer to put out music then the industry will pass her on by.
It would be shamefull if she came back and not many people cared anymore.
The longer she waits, the tougher it is to get back.
But she is only 42, you would think she would want to make music often if it is her passion. At least throw your fans a bone once in the last 5 years.
I think she has lots of mending to do with her fans when she comes back.
Shania should should be overjoyed that she has such a patient fanbase and she should not take them for advantage like she has for so long.

ZippyDoo wrote:

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What are you talking about? When did she say she wants to retire now? And why whould you bring that up when she clearly says she wants to continue.
And with all due respect many people have worked as young ages much harder and gone on to work till they are 70 yearold.
And to top it all off what Shania does is not even work, it is her passion she claims.

 

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hey i didn't say she said that herself,i meant that i would understant if she did wanted to retire because she have worked hard.
and lets not forget that she lost her parents at 22,that was a huge heartache and lots of responsibilities came along.

 

-- Edited by Country gal at 14:11, 2008-07-18

ZippyDoo wrote:

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Why are you going over this again? Why do we have to always make excuses for Shania.
Shania is not the only one who goes through hardships.
I am sorry but I don't understand anyone who would want to retire at age 42 and just sit there and collect money.
If music is your passion then you want to create it and perform.
It is not like Shania was working in a coal mine since a kid and doing hard physical work and is crippled. She was doing what she says she loves, music.
It really amazes me how some fans treat her like such a wounded baby.

 

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Kev,don't twist things around,i wanted to reply to Alison and share my views on that,she mentioned about how shania have worked hard and i just wanted to say that i agree.

as for making excuses for shania i don't, but seriously i really like her as a person and i do have many things in common regarding my childhood and the years later in my life ,so i guess i'm biased and i will always like her even if she kicked me in the butt,he he

 

-- Edited by Country gal at 14:23, 2008-07-18

lulu wrote:

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First I'd like to comment on Mutts statement that "we drifted apart but will still remain friends". It was in responce to this statement that someone in Shania's corner came out and spoke to People magazine. No doubt about it Shania was in shock about the affair and was very hurt by that betrayal. Also Shania was in shock that Mutt asked for the divorce one month prior to the story breaking. When pressed by Shania for a reason he wanted out he would not give one. Then she was told about the affair. She left Swizerland etc. I don't believe they are friends now but are in communication regarding the divorce at least their lawyers are. I don't believe they will put Eja in the middle of this and will therefore be cordial to one another. As for Shania's statement about being "heartbroken" she was raw with emotion when she issued that statement and it was straight from the heart. I don't believe it was a sympathy ploy...she was just being honest as to where she is at. Someone compared going thru a divorce is like an amputation...phantom pain lasts a long time. Lets remember first that Shania is a human being and as such needs to grieve this loss. Will she get thru it, of course she will she is a strong person. Will she hurt for awhile....definitly there is no denying this. She is a human being afterall....

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Lulu, you are just specutation like everyone else, you don't know the situation and neither does anyone else except Mutt and Shania.
And like I said before the broken heart comment was way over the top play for sympathy and any objective person who is not a Shania die hard fan could see that.
and please don't preach to me about a loss. My Auntie lost her son to a brain tumor when he was only 13.  Him and I were close friends and played sports together all the time.
Losing a son is the worst loss of all and she never complained or asked for sympathy, she went out there and got back to work and got on with her life.
Shania in her situation is no different than millions of other woman who go through divorce. Except that those woman have to worry about finances and the emotional part.

Shania still and her family still have their health and the world at their feet to do whatever they want.
So don't preach to me about pain when my Aunt went through much harder pain with much less resource and she didn't complain.

Like you said Shania is human like all of us so she should have no problem getting on with her life like all of us average people. People are out there everyday working and going through tougher life situations.
Eja is the only victim here, not Shania.

I agree with Lulu here,
death is the worse pain no question about it,but they are other forms of pain too,if we felt sad only over death then we would all be pretty much happy.
there are people who get on with their lives as zippo states,but there are other too that are commiting suicide or fall into deep depression after their divorce.
zippo please try to understand that people aren't all the same.

Country gal wrote:

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I agree with Lulu here,
death is the worse pain no question about it,but they are other forms of pain too,if we felt sad only over death then we would all be pretty much happy.
there are people who get on with their lives as zippo states,but there are other too that are commiting suicide or fall into deep depression after their divorce.
zippo please try to understand that people aren't all the same.

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People aren't all the same like you said.  So what you are saying is that Shania is weak and you want her to crawl in a corner and cry.
Oh please, it has been months already.
Emotionally Eja is the victim here not Shania.
I think Shania is playing this victim act too much in her career just for sympathy.
This is my opinion.