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Goodbye


To all the fans on Tommy's site I want to tell you goodbye and hope that for you that Shania comes back. You guys are number one in my book. Tommy thank you very much for letting me post on your site and all the hard work you do to keep it going. Goodbye to you all!heart.gif

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See you later. I will be right behind you if I hear no signs of life from Shania in the next few months.

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Thank you for all of your kind words and encouraging messages you've sent to me ,Arsen.

Good Luck with everything you do in you life from now onsmile

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I can't say I'm sorry to see people like you go, because all you do is continually put Shania down and this board would be so much better if we were to try and focus on the good things Shania has done so far, she ain't perfect, that much we know, but a positive reaction is more welcoming.

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I can't say I'm sorry to see people like you go, because all you do is continually put Shania down and this board would be so much better if we were to try and focus on the good things Shania has done so far, she ain't perfect, that much we know, but a positive reaction is more welcoming.



What kind of comment is that?
Grapeowner was a huge fan of Shania and a big collector of her stuff.
He has every right to give his opinion on this board of Shania and her attitude.
Why must every fan and exfan kiss her butt even though we know she coudn't careless about you or I.
I think it is Shania's big loss that he is no longer a fan and many more will follow.Grapeowner has been patient for years and made this choice with  good thought to not be a fan anymore.
He uses his common sense and is not naive.
Shania should thank her lucky stars she has any fans left.


-- Edited by EveryBodyLovesKevy at 20:16, 2008-10-15

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See you later. I will be right behind you if I hear no signs of life from Shania in the next few months.



we can only hope

 



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This is for Twain 2 country and Kelc 317- If you did what I have done then you can talk. By you buying a C.D. or going to a concert that less then 100 dollars. I have been a fan for last 19 years.
I'am going tell you what I have done. I have sent a attorney to Nashville to talk to her agency to see when Shania would come out with C.D. or Tour. That cost me 15 thousand dollars, air fare, hotel, food attorney fee at 300 dollars an hour. I have flown to Hunstville to talk to Carrie-Ann. That cost me about 3 thousand dollars. I had my secretary spend 4 days making a list of all radio stations that when Shania came out with a C. D. We can call or E- mail right way to tell them to keep playing the C. D. My secretary could have been doing my company business than working on Shania. I could go on and on what I have done. I bet I have spend about 30 to 35 Thousand dollars total. So do not say I'am not a true fan. What have you done to help Shania beside running your mouth off. I was trying to get her career started again.

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This is for Twain 2 country and Kelc 317- If you did what I have done then you can talk. By you buying a C.D. or going to a concert that less then 100 dollars. I have been a fan for last 19 years.
I'am going tell you what I have done. I have sent a attorney to Nashville to talk to her agency to see when Shania would come out with C.D. or Tour. That cost me 15 thousand dollars, air fare, hotel, food attorney fee at 300 dollars an hour. I have flown to Hunstville to talk to Carrie-Ann. That cost me about 3 thousand dollars. I had my secretary spend 4 days making a list of all radio stations that when Shania came out with a C. D. We can call or E- mail right way to tell them to keep playing the C. D. My secretary could have been doing my company business than working on Shania. I could go on and on what I have done. I bet I have spend about 30 to 35 Thousand dollars total. So do not say I'am not a true fan. What have you done to help Shania beside running your mouth off. I was trying to get her career started again.




don't worry about Kelc, he or she just runs her mouth just to start fights.
YOu have proven you are one of her biggest fans.
Some people come here from the shaniaforums where anyone who says anything that isn't praising Shanis is forbidden.
You spent alot of money and time in your dedication to Shania and deserve more respect on this board that some people are giving you.



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This is for Twain 2 country and Kelc 317- If you did what I have done then you can talk. By you buying a C.D. or going to a concert that less then 100 dollars. I have been a fan for last 19 years.
I'am going tell you what I have done. I have sent a attorney to Nashville to talk to her agency to see when Shania would come out with C.D. or Tour. That cost me 15 thousand dollars, air fare, hotel, food attorney fee at 300 dollars an hour. I have flown to Hunstville to talk to Carrie-Ann. That cost me about 3 thousand dollars. I had my secretary spend 4 days making a list of all radio stations that when Shania came out with a C. D. We can call or E- mail right way to tell them to keep playing the C. D. My secretary could have been doing my company business than working on Shania. I could go on and on what I have done. I bet I have spend about 30 to 35 Thousand dollars total. So do not say I'am not a true fan. What have you done to help Shania beside running your mouth off. I was trying to get her career started again.



Wow, thats what I call a dedicated fan. Shania does not deserve a fan like you.
did you actually end of talking to Carrie-Ann and what did she say?
What info did your attorney come up with?



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People, does any of this sound normal?

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2ndAmendment wrote:

People, does any of this sound normal?



What not normal is your over the top sympathy for Shania and how you take her personal life so emotional.



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amen Joe

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amen Joe



Lulu, if anyone looked at  your posts and joey they would think that is not normal.
While people are dying and suffering of diseases you are on here defending a  healthy zillionaire who has split with her husband, that is not normal.
I am just here as a fan and maybe soon to be exfan just giving my opinion over and over again. You keep responding to me with the same babble and keep it going.



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amen Joe




 Downright scary sounding to me.



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This is for Twain 2 country and Kelc 317- If you did what I have done then you can talk. By you buying a C.D. or going to a concert that less then 100 dollars. I have been a fan for last 19 years.
I'am going tell you what I have done. I have sent a attorney to Nashville to talk to her agency to see when Shania would come out with C.D. or Tour. That cost me 15 thousand dollars, air fare, hotel, food attorney fee at 300 dollars an hour. I have flown to Hunstville to talk to Carrie-Ann. That cost me about 3 thousand dollars. I had my secretary spend 4 days making a list of all radio stations that when Shania came out with a C. D. We can call or E- mail right way to tell them to keep playing the C. D. My secretary could have been doing my company business than working on Shania. I could go on and on what I have done. I bet I have spend about 30 to 35 Thousand dollars total. So do not say I'am not a true fan. What have you done to help Shania beside running your mouth off. I was trying to get her career started again.



my post was to kevy not you(we can only hope),that being said you chose to spend that money that doesn't give you a right to tell her how or what she has to do with her life,i think you have kind of lost touch with reality when you think she's part of your family or fly to see her sister,that just not normal behavior,in some cases going to see her sister could be seen as being a stalker,she doesn't know you,and what makes you think Shania needs your help with her career

 



-- Edited by kelc317 at 18:10, 2008-10-16

-- Edited by kelc317 at 18:11, 2008-10-16

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Is this guy nuts? No wonder Shania goes in hiding from her fans.

-- Edited by twain2country at 18:14, 2008-10-16

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twain2country wrote:

Is this guy nuts? No wonder Shania goes in hiding from her fans.

-- Edited by twain2country at 18:14, 2008-10-16




No, that guy is just a big fan so don't judge him. I can say everyone at the shaniaforums are nuts by the way they don't allow any honest opinion and over the top comments.
But I don't judge them because I don't know them personally and you shouldn't judge arsen since he actually put time,money and effort into Shania.



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This is for Twain 2 country and Kelc 317- If you did what I have done then you can talk. By you buying a C.D. or going to a concert that less then 100 dollars. I have been a fan for last 19 years.
I'am going tell you what I have done. I have sent a attorney to Nashville to talk to her agency to see when Shania would come out with C.D. or Tour. That cost me 15 thousand dollars, air fare, hotel, food attorney fee at 300 dollars an hour. I have flown to Hunstville to talk to Carrie-Ann. That cost me about 3 thousand dollars. I had my secretary spend 4 days making a list of all radio stations that when Shania came out with a C. D. We can call or E- mail right way to tell them to keep playing the C. D. My secretary could have been doing my company business than working on Shania. I could go on and on what I have done. I bet I have spend about 30 to 35 Thousand dollars total. So do not say I'am not a true fan. What have you done to help Shania beside running your mouth off. I was trying to get her career started again.



my post was to kevy not you(we can only hope),that being said you chose to spend that money that doesn't give you a right to tell her how or what she has to do with her life,i think you have kind of lost touch with reality when you think she's part of your family or fly to see her sister,that just not normal behavior,in some cases going to see her sister could be seen as being a stalker,she doesn't know you,and what makes you think Shania needs your help with her career



-- Edited by kelc317 at 18:10, 2008-10-16

-- Edited by kelc317 at 18:11, 2008-10-16


You shouldn't go judging people unless you know them.
I respect that guy more than I do you. He puts his money where his mouth is.
While others just run their mouth.



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you are a joke kevy you never judge people right,and go back grape was ready to quit a while ago because of you

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kelc317 wrote:

you are a joke kevy you never judge people right,and go back grape was ready to quit a while ago because of you




Are you calling names now?
LIke I said I have more respect for him than I do for someone like you who runs their mouth without backing it up.
If I brush you the wrong way why are you keep on arguing with me and responding. Doesn't it make sense to move on and start your own topic. Or are you here to start fights?
I at least have posted postive threads in the past.You have done nothing but lose arguments and start fights.
If Tommy wants to limit what I say then I hope he warns you for you name calling just because you can't take others opinions.
so who is the real joke  here?



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you crying like a baby now,personally i could careless what you think, don't judge people you don't know ,you do that all the time kevy,and your the one in all the fights,

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This is for Twain 2 country and Kelc 317- If you did what I have done then you can talk. By you buying a C.D. or going to a concert that less then 100 dollars. I have been a fan for last 19 years.
I'am going tell you what I have done. I have sent a attorney to Nashville to talk to her agency to see when Shania would come out with C.D. or Tour. That cost me 15 thousand dollars, air fare, hotel, food attorney fee at 300 dollars an hour. I have flown to Hunstville to talk to Carrie-Ann. That cost me about 3 thousand dollars. I had my secretary spend 4 days making a list of all radio stations that when Shania came out with a C. D. We can call or E- mail right way to tell them to keep playing the C. D. My secretary could have been doing my company business than working on Shania. I could go on and on what I have done. I bet I have spend about 30 to 35 Thousand dollars total. So do not say I'am not a true fan. What have you done to help Shania beside running your mouth off. I was trying to get her career started again.



Are you serious?!??  shocked.gif  That is scary if you did all of this!  No wonder Shania lives in Switzerland!  That is not right! 



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grape grower wrote:

This is for Twain 2 country and Kelc 317- If you did what I have done then you can talk. By you buying a C.D. or going to a concert that less then 100 dollars. I have been a fan for last 19 years.
I'am going tell you what I have done. I have sent a attorney to Nashville to talk to her agency to see when Shania would come out with C.D. or Tour. That cost me 15 thousand dollars, air fare, hotel, food attorney fee at 300 dollars an hour. I have flown to Hunstville to talk to Carrie-Ann. That cost me about 3 thousand dollars. I had my secretary spend 4 days making a list of all radio stations that when Shania came out with a C. D. We can call or E- mail right way to tell them to keep playing the C. D. My secretary could have been doing my company business than working on Shania. I could go on and on what I have done. I bet I have spend about 30 to 35 Thousand dollars total. So do not say I'am not a true fan. What have you done to help Shania beside running your mouth off. I was trying to get her career started again.



Are you serious?!??  shocked.gif  That is scary if you did all of this!  No wonder Shania lives in Switzerland!  That is not right! 



I don't think you should judge him because he is a big fan and may go out of his way to support Shania.
Shania lives in Switzerland because she doesn't want to deal with any fans.
Her fans respect her and given her privacy and she has never had any problem with stalker or trouble with any fans. Shania choice to move away is her choice so don't put the blame on fans who support her. She has the most loyal and supportive fans in music who are giving her the benifit of the doubt the last 6 years.
What scary is that Shania sees no need to be fan friendly and sees no need for her fans at all until she wants to sell something.
I don't know graperowner and I can't judge him.I would never do all the stuff he has done but I am not in his shoes and I never spent that much money on Shania collections like he has only to have Shania run away from the fans with not so much as a word.



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Kevy you attacked grape to the point he was going to quit the board over your insults,now the only reason you defend him is because he's mad at shania your a phoney hypocrite

-- Edited by kelc317 at 15:46, 2008-10-17

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Kevy you attacked grape to the point he was going to quit the board over your insults,now the only reason you defend him is because he's mad at shania your a phoney hypocrite

-- Edited by kelc317 at 15:46, 2008-10-17



Time for you to go back to the loony bin or the shaniaforums.
Calling names is against the rules and I hope he warns you.
You some serious insecurity problems. You feel a need to respond to everyone of my posts to start a fight.
I feel sorry for you and I hope you get help very soon.



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kelc317 speaks the truth kevy. It is obvious to all who post here.

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kelc317 speaks the truth kevy. It is obvious to all who post here.




lol!!! Lulu, you need to truly get some help since you keep responding to my posts.
How many actually post here that have disagreed with me, about 5 or 6 lol!!!
Wow that is so much. The other tons of members don't even bother to respond because they don't care or agree with me.



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I don't think you should judge him because he is a big fan and may go out of his way to support Shania.
Shania lives in Switzerland because she doesn't want to deal with any fans.
Her fans respect her and given her privacy and she has never had any problem with stalker or trouble with any fans. Shania choice to move away is her choice so don't put the blame on fans who support her. She has the most loyal and supportive fans in music who are giving her the benifit of the doubt the last 6 years.
What scary is that Shania sees no need to be fan friendly and sees no need for her fans at all until she wants to sell something.
I don't know graperowner and I can't judge him.I would never do all the stuff he has done but I am not in his shoes and I never spent that much money on Shania collections like he has only to have Shania run away from the fans with not so much as a word.



You judge Shania all the time!  ;)
And, yes, Shania has had stalkers and fans who are obsessed with her!  People even slept outside on her sidewalk in Switzerland to get a glimpse of her!  People are sick! 



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grape grower wrote:

This is for Twain 2 country and Kelc 317- If you did what I have done then you can talk. By you buying a C.D. or going to a concert that less then 100 dollars. I have been a fan for last 19 years.
I'am going tell you what I have done. I have sent a attorney to Nashville to talk to her agency to see when Shania would come out with C.D. or Tour. That cost me 15 thousand dollars, air fare, hotel, food attorney fee at 300 dollars an hour. I have flown to Hunstville to talk to Carrie-Ann. That cost me about 3 thousand dollars. I had my secretary spend 4 days making a list of all radio stations that when Shania came out with a C. D. We can call or E- mail right way to tell them to keep playing the C. D. My secretary could have been doing my company business than working on Shania. I could go on and on what I have done. I bet I have spend about 30 to 35 Thousand dollars total. So do not say I'am not a true fan. What have you done to help Shania beside running your mouth off. I was trying to get her career started again.



Are you serious?!?? shocked.gif That is scary if you did all of this! No wonder Shania lives in Switzerland! That is not right!

 




Angie is right.  Spending money like that doesn't make you a bigger fan, it makes you look like a nutcase.



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you can't just go up to shania's sister like that, i mean if grape started to talk like he posts here i bet he scared the hell out of carrie,i remember when, i think her name was rebecca schafer she had a nutty fan show up at her door and when she opened the door he shot her dead,thats why none of us puts there personal info out,think what celbs have to deal with,to many nut cases in the world today

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you can't just go up to shania's sister like that, i mean if grape started to talk like he posts here i bet he scared the hell out of carrie,i remember when, i think her name was rebecca schafer she had a nutty fan show up at her door and when she opened the door he shot her dead,thats why none of us puts there personal info out,think what celbs have to deal with,to many nut cases in the world today



jesus,i remember that terrifying story,
i was little but i remembe,and that girl was SO young.

btw wasn't a 'fan' that was accusing Shania of stealing her songs????
i think i read somewhere about that.weirdface

 



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she was a actress on some tv show only about 20 very pretty to,i didn't here about the fan accusing shania but im sure she's had her share of whacko's

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It is unfortunately true. There are dangerous fans with delusions out there. Now a days celebreties have to be so careful.

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He's been a fan for 19 years???
And she started in 1993....

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I just drop in in see what was going on. I'am not a nutty or whacko fan and I did not scared the hell out of her. I have money to do what I want to do with mine money that money I spend is like 100 dollars to me. The attorney that I sent to Nashville was also trying to get a license agreement to Shania name to put on the wine bottles. With Shania name we can sell lot of wine. She would make and would also make money. I have been a fan for 19 years. I would not harm her or anybody else. So please do not call me a whacko or nutty. I have printed all the posts that have call me names if you keep call me names I will sue everyone of you. I have done more then any of you. You guys do not know me but I been a good fan. I have put her collection on the auction block, after the auction I'am done with Shania.

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I didn't think Shania had been professional recording for 19 years, her debut album came out in 1993. That's almost 15 years ago, the same year she stopped eating meat.

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I believe he stated following her since Deerhurst. confused

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well first off you don't sound normal,if you have so much money why were you complaining about the money you spent on Shania? you can't sue anybody because nobody is using your name so what grounds are you going to sue on?and it sounds like your upset because what ever you did in lakeville didn't work out as you had planned,but what makes you think shania needs or wants your help with her career?


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That guy unnerves me, so glad he's gone.



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Shania actually had stuff out before her debut album that made her famous "look it up"weirdface



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This stuff is so scary espec when you have children. Shania has to worry about this. She was very private before but now she maybe paranoid of people in general. She trusted her husband and she had a good friend she thought she could trust who moved in on her hubby. Remember the latin singer Selena, I think her manager or head of her fan club killed her? What a world! On one of Shania's sites on the web it shows pictures of her fans and some of those pictures are truly weird and scary.

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It can be rough being famous, weirdos with scary minds, and on top of that having a husband you thought you can trust, a friend you thought you can trust. Very sad but of course it's all still mostly speculation. I guess it's just difficult to comprehend.

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Yes, shania must have trust issues now after the betrayal of her husband and her best friend. All I can say is that I am absolutely delighted that she is showing up for the CMA's. It seems unlikely that she will give interviews but if she does I welcome them. I still don't think there will be a new cd until the holiday time next year.

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IF THIS SITE WAS NORMAL, WHO WOULD VISIT IT?????
                                        
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