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Tonto wrote:

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kelc317 wrote:

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Peever you can post your info and just let everyone draw their own opinions, Tonto, in my day a girl as good looking as Shania would just go find a boyfriend that could afford to buy her the beer she wouldn't have to trade favors for it.I know i bought a lot of beer and Boones farm wine and weed in my high school days.Anything to get laid

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  Never said I believed these rumors were true.  I don't know that I believe anything I read anywhere but I do believe that there are people who know stuff and discussing rumors is all we can really do.  What else is there to discuss?  I read on the STOFC website that she never reads the posts or visits the websites so she doesn't know what we discuss.  She pays people to censor the STOFC.  She's human.  I know that rumors can hurt people but how many people actually believe everything they read and  how many people have read the rumors and said I'm not going to listen to her music anymore or be a fan of hers anymore.  Most people who are true fans are fans no matter what and yes she does deserve respect, privacy and success no matter what rumors are true or false.  I'm just saying that just because she became famous it doesn't mean she turned into a perfect saint.  Society puts these people on pedastals and spends years building them up only to turn around and try to knock them off.  Digging anywhere they can to find awful past mistakes to tear them down and destroy them it sucks but it's life unfortunately.  It would be nice if she had more input in the fanclub.  Maybe one day she will realize how important the fanclub is and keeping the fanclub members close could only help her in the long run.  People want to say she old.  She is country music.  Look at Reba, Dolly Parton.  These women have increcible careers with no end in sight.  The new singers can't hold a candle to Shania because she is an all around entertainer.  She can write her own songs, play them, dance and sing.  I've never seen her live in concert but I'll guarantee you get your money's worth for your ticket price.  I don't want to see someone just stand at a mic and sing I want more for my money and Shania does it all.  She is unique and her new tour will be even better becasue her creativity and strive for perfection will be even greater when she starts back. She didn't leave so why they call it a comeback I don't know she took a vacation and now she's ready to go back to work.  She needed the time with her son and family to renew and invigorate herself and to get back to creativity.  She's down to earth and human that's why we all can relate to her and along with that comes the past and those mistakes and it may not be our business but it is still out there and I don't see anything wrong with wanting to take the good with the bad that's what you do when you care about people.  You don't judge. You love the sinner but hate the sins and we all do it.
Warmest regards as always,
Tonto

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I disagree with much of what you say. We should be able to judge and give our opinion.
Shania has built her career image around being wholesome and nice.
We don't know the real Shania and we never will.
And if she has chosen to have little contact with the fans then we have a right to give an opinion on that.
It doesn't make you any less a fan because you question her or  her motives. She only is nice to the fans when she has something to promote at the moment and that is proven.But I don't want to rehash anything again.
So while we are all fans of her music, we have a right to judge her as a person since she is the one who makes a living off of her fans.
I hope Shania comes out with a better attitude and connects with the fans this time round, I would like nothing better than that.
I am a true fan but I also have a right to question her.
WE are all human but we don't all make money offour fans and have this wholesome image that you portay in public.
So lets all see what the new Shania brings and if it in fact is a new Shania.
It has been so long already that I am afraid many fans will not wait any longer. She will be 44 next year and all of these false alarms a new alblum is wearing thin. She has only put out 4 albums in her whole career.
So many fans who question her are true fans showing concern and some disappointment in her.
Lets all look to the postive these next few months and hope she actually has an announcement for her fans or if it is more of the same false alarms.

Tonto wrote:

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Kevy,
Hi Tonto here.  I've read lots of your posts over the past couple of years and I must say at times you seem to hate Shania and at times you seem to love her.  You claim her personal life doesn't matter to you yet you say you and the rest of the world should be allowed to judge her.  She hasn't based her image on wholesomeness. Remember she was blasted by almost everyone in the country music business for being too sexy, for showing just her midriff and now that's nothing even in country music.   She's never claimed anywhere to be a saint but on the other hand she doesn't go around airing her dirty laundry either.  She may only have released 4 albums but she has been in the business all her life and deserves to have a life outside of music and the fans. I try to put myself in her place when I think about all the private stuff getting written and revealed.  I mean how would you feel if everytime you broke up with a girl it got posted in every magazine and was on T.V.  Watch the movie Notting Hill Julia Roberts says the same thing about how hard it is to live under a microscope all the time and yes I know they chose that life but we still need to be more understanding and try to remember that she is human and she has feelings and they get hurt when people are unkind in what they assume and say.  She could preach her true story till the cows came home and the press would still make crap up because that's what sells and I am sure Shania has enough songs written up that she probably wouldn't have to write another one ever again and she could record them and keep us more than happy but she has to have a life in between.  She never had a chance to be a normal kid all through high school.  She worked and helped support her family and when her parents died she raised her sister and brothers and she struggled so hard so she deserves every bit of success and happiness that she achieves and then some.  Who are we to judge, Who are we to take anything away from her for being human and being who she is.  Accept her and love her for who she is not who you wish she was or who you want her to be.  No I don't know her and neither do you but I do know she's a human being and she deserves to be respected and loved that's really all anyone wants isn't it? I'd wait forever for a new album doesn't matter.  I'm not going anywhere and every year she gets older I get older and that's ok too that's what we do one day at a time. 
Warmest regards as always,
Tonto

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EveryBodyLovesKevy wrote:

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fans have any right to have an opinion on Shania. Who are you to say who is a fan and who is not?
Obviously Shania is not going to raise her son alone,Mutt gets half custody. And obviously Shania is not going to stay out of the public since she paraded Frederick in New York City for everyone to see.
So any fan has every right to judge her just like people judge me by what I say or do.
And more so her because she made her living off of the fans support.
Newsflash Shania fans, Shania is not going to raise Eja alone, she will have joint custody and Mutt will be with him half the time. And newflash Shania fans, Shania was never a stay at home mom, she has always travelled and always had a nanny for Eja.
So I think it is time we fans stop using Eja as an excuse for Shania.
Now it seems she will have more free time than ever.

Shania says to her fans that we will be seein alot of her soon.
Lets hope as fans that it is not too late and that she isn't irrelevant and that she makes a huge comeback. It is all about the music for most true fans, not tabloid garbage.

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EveryBodyLovesKevy wrote:

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kelc317 wrote:

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EveryBodyLovesKevy wrote:

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fans have any right to have an opinion on Shania. Who are you to say who is a fan and who is not?
Obviously Shania is not going to raise her son alone,Mutt gets half custody. And obviously Shania is not going to stay out of the public since she paraded Frederick in New York City for everyone to see.
So any fan has every right to judge her just like people judge me by what I say or do.
And more so her because she made her living off of the fans support.
Newsflash Shania fans, Shania is not going to raise Eja alone, she will have joint custody and Mutt will be with him half the time. And newflash Shania fans, Shania was never a stay at home mom, she has always travelled and always had a nanny for Eja.
So I think it is time we fans stop using Eja as an excuse for Shania.
Now it seems she will have more free time than ever.

Shania says to her fans that we will be seein alot of her soon.
Lets hope as fans that it is not too late and that she isn't irrelevant and that she makes a huge comeback. It is all about the music for most true fans, not tabloid garbage.

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news flash for you Kevy i had joint custody of my daughter and that was every other weekend,and i also know of a couple that lived in the same town so the kids stayed one week with one parent and with the other parent the next week.So if Shania moves then who knows what the arrangement will be



-- Edited by kelc317 at 13:54, 2008-12-22

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Newsflash- She ain't moving anywhere. Shania wil continue to live in Switzerland and Eja will continue to go to school there.
You need to get off this Eja topic. Because he has 2 parents who will look after him. While Shania was on her 2 week romantic tour Mutt was looking after Eja.
Bottom line is that they will both share in taking care of him and Shania isnt' a better mom than any other person out there balancing a career except she has the money and also Mutt  he can take care of Eja.
Where do you think Eja was when  Mutt and Shania were together and took all of their vacations, a nanny.
My guess is part of their agreement is that Shania has to live in Switzerland and Eja will grow up there. So Shania will spend her time  between NOrth Amercia and Switzerland. And eja will go with her on tour when he is out of school and when there is school he will be with Mutt if Shania is on tour.

 

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kelc317 wrote:

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EveryBodyLovesKevy wrote:

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kelc317 wrote:

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EveryBodyLovesKevy wrote:

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fans have any right to have an opinion on Shania. Who are you to say who is a fan and who is not?
Obviously Shania is not going to raise her son alone,Mutt gets half custody. And obviously Shania is not going to stay out of the public since she paraded Frederick in New York City for everyone to see.
So any fan has every right to judge her just like people judge me by what I say or do.
And more so her because she made her living off of the fans support.
Newsflash Shania fans, Shania is not going to raise Eja alone, she will have joint custody and Mutt will be with him half the time. And newflash Shania fans, Shania was never a stay at home mom, she has always travelled and always had a nanny for Eja.
So I think it is time we fans stop using Eja as an excuse for Shania.
Now it seems she will have more free time than ever.

Shania says to her fans that we will be seein alot of her soon.
Lets hope as fans that it is not too late and that she isn't irrelevant and that she makes a huge comeback. It is all about the music for most true fans, not tabloid garbage.

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news flash for you Kevy i had joint custody of my daughter and that was every other weekend,and i also know of a couple that lived in the same town so the kids stayed one week with one parent and with the other parent the next week.So if Shania moves then who knows what the arrangement will be



-- Edited by kelc317 at 13:54, 2008-12-22

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Newsflash- She ain't moving anywhere. Shania wil continue to live in Switzerland and Eja will continue to go to school there.
You need to get off this Eja topic. Because he has 2 parents who will look after him. While Shania was on her 2 week romantic tour Mutt was looking after Eja.
Bottom line is that they will both share in taking care of him and Shania isnt' a better mom than any other person out there balancing a career except she has the money and also Mutt  he can take care of Eja.
Where do you think Eja was when  Mutt and Shania were together and took all of their vacations, a nanny.
My guess is part of their agreement is that Shania has to live in Switzerland and Eja will grow up there. So Shania will spend her time  between NOrth Amercia and Switzerland. And eja will go with her on tour when he is out of school and when there is school he will be with Mutt if Shania is on tour.

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You could be right but i don't think anything is wriiten in stone.

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tonyme wrote:

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If she had a boyfriend in Timmins while being married how come we didn't hear about it than? Why now???

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Who knows the real truth or if Peever even knows anyone close to Shania.
This is a message board where anyone can pretend to  know someone famous or a relative of someone famous.
She hasn't answered many questions here that people have asked
My personal opinion is that I doubt she knows anything at all but she is free to say whatevef she wants.
She also said she would get her friend(Shania's cousin) to come on here and explain better but no word  yet.
We all want to believe that she knows something but I think everyone here has serious doubt without any real proof.
So in my humble  opinion I think she is fooling with us fans.
But as she said we can choose to believe her or not believe her and I choose not to believe her.
She hasn't even answered your question or many other questions by fans  here even though she has logged on and read the questions.
And that comment she made about Shania having a boyfriend in Timmins while married to Mutt is totally bogus in my opinion.

lulu wrote:

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Tonto, loved your post, you put everything down so well. Shania does have the right to live her life with out judgement and condemnation. She is afterall human.

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 It would be so nice to have a few more Tontos here.

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EveryBodyLovesKevy wrote:

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Tonto wrote:

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Kevy,
Hi Tonto here.  I've read lots of your posts over the past couple of years and I must say at times you seem to hate Shania and at times you seem to love her.  You claim her personal life doesn't matter to you yet you say you and the rest of the world should be allowed to judge her.  She hasn't based her image on wholesomeness. Remember she was blasted by almost everyone in the country music business for being too sexy, for showing just her midriff and now that's nothing even in country music.   She's never claimed anywhere to be a saint but on the other hand she doesn't go around airing her dirty laundry either.  She may only have released 4 albums but she has been in the business all her life and deserves to have a life outside of music and the fans. I try to put myself in her place when I think about all the private stuff getting written and revealed.  I mean how would you feel if everytime you broke up with a girl it got posted in every magazine and was on T.V.  Watch the movie Notting Hill Julia Roberts says the same thing about how hard it is to live under a microscope all the time and yes I know they chose that life but we still need to be more understanding and try to remember that she is human and she has feelings and they get hurt when people are unkind in what they assume and say.  She could preach her true story till the cows came home and the press would still make crap up because that's what sells and I am sure Shania has enough songs written up that she probably wouldn't have to write another one ever again and she could record them and keep us more than happy but she has to have a life in between.  She never had a chance to be a normal kid all through high school.  She worked and helped support her family and when her parents died she raised her sister and brothers and she struggled so hard so she deserves every bit of success and happiness that she achieves and then some.  Who are we to judge, Who are we to take anything away from her for being human and being who she is.  Accept her and love her for who she is not who you wish she was or who you want her to be.  No I don't know her and neither do you but I do know she's a human being and she deserves to be respected and loved that's really all anyone wants isn't it? I'd wait forever for a new album doesn't matter.  I'm not going anywhere and every year she gets older I get older and that's ok too that's what we do one day at a time. 
Warmest regards as always,
Tonto

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I respect your  opinion Tonto and know you are a good fan but I do disagree with you.
I am a fan too and think she has not treated her fans well. That is my opinion and I won't  harp on it.
We as fans have every right to judge her on her actions. She is the one who is making hundreds of millions off of her fans and she is the one who chose this career and she gets all the luxury of her status.
To say Shania should never be questioned is quite a stretch.
And you can wait for 20 more  years for an album if you want but don't expect everyone to have your beliefs and think they should think the way you do.
So I respect your opinion but I do disagree with it 100%.
You seem to be a very good and upbeat person and a great Shania fan.
I just have different views on this topic and think Shania should be thankful and grateful for the fans she has. She should show her thanks instead of hiding from them and only coming out when she want to promote something.
Thanks for your posts, we will just agree to disagree.

Kevy,
I do totally understand how you feel about Shania not giving her fans the attention or consideration they deserve.  Sometimes when I think about I feel the same hurt that she doesn't really care about her fans like she should but then I look back at the videos of her live in concert on tour and I see her interacting with her fans and I see her out in public at places where people are bombarding her at the airport for autographs and she's smiling and signing lots of them until everyone gets what they need even if she's late getting where she needs to be or if she has to cut short something she had planned because she signed too many autographs.  Then I say to myself she may not be appreciating me personally as a fan but she is appreciating as many as she can when she can.  She's always said she would rather be behind the scenes writing for others and that she is still uncomfortable with the fame side.  Yeah it's hard some days knowing you're just one of 10 billion and she'll probably never even know you exsist but on those days I pop in a Cd of hers and hear her voice and I remember how she sang me to her not the other way around and I can't fault her for that.  She didn't beg me to be her fan and I'm not a fan because I want to be recognized I'm a fan becasue I love the music and how it always speaks directly to my heart and when I hear her voice it feels like home.  I'm not doing it for her I'm doing it for me.  She's a gift that I gave myself.  If I never meet her or see her in concert that's fine I can live with that but it won't stop me from supporting her in every way possible and if the little bit of money that I spend helps her to live an awsomely happy life then I am more than happy to do it because no matter what anyone says about her or how old she gets or even if she never releases another song her music and her presence in this world has made my life a whole hell of a lot better than it would have been without her.
Unless you've been in her shoes and know what it's like firsthand to be her then how can anyone say it's O.K. to judge her?
True blue Shania fan forever.  Anyone who doesn't feel the same way should turn in their right to be her fan.
Warmest regards as always,
Tonto

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EveryBodyLovesKevy wrote:

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pretty sad that an old man is starting fights on a message board.
You should watch your language you aren't setting a good example to the people younger than you, which is everyone here.
Maybe go back to reading the national enquirer or examiner.
You do have quit a foul mouth.
shame,shame.

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PurplePeopleEater wrote:

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He keeps saying he will be positive but I never see it.

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Everything was positive the last 3 days until you came by to start some fights.
In fact everything was respectful and postive the last 3 days.
And then all of a sudden you came by and started spouting off and calling names.
shame,shame

peever wrote:

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sorry guy's not trying to start anything on here, like I said just wanna give my opinion, I f you dont want me to talk about shania's canadian life i wont, I just cant wait for new music, I hope 2009 is the year for Shania.

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PurplePeopleEater wrote:

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I thought only one member had the market cornered here on uncouth comments.

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