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Tonto · Guru

RE: Shania and Frederic - Magazine coverage

PurplePeopleEater · Guru

I know she has more privacy and quietude in Switzerland than in most of the rest of the world but she is still world famous and she does not and cannot lead what we know to be a normal life.

I am not aware of here current stance on Sant Matt since Mutt is history.

I do not think any of us know what she is doing now for spiritual guidance and help and for support.

I do not think Shania can separate from worldly things and matters given her station in life and her immense fame and fortune.

misskiwi · Veteran Member

Perhaps that may be the case, but I kind of agree with some of Kevy's comments about Shania being able to get privacy in Canada or in the states. Maybe she was in a cult like faith with Mutt and they didn't want the press to know cause it would create ridicule and perhaps scandal.

misskiwi · Veteran Member

I suspect Shania could be a victim of mind control through Mutt and Sant Mat. She's been a recluse and I suspect of religions that tell you what to eat (unless it's a holiday) and who you can associate with. I read some about this faith and I think Shania seemed in better spirits pre Sant Mat.

PurplePeopleEater · Guru

Most folks who follow cult beliefs do not go at it whole hog - especially those who are as successful and famous as Shania and Mutt - they pick and choose and take what works for them. I do not believe either of them ever were under mind control - that is poppy**** as are most of the things said by the individual you mentioned.

twain2country · Guru

Hey, has anyone noticed the resemblance between Frederic and Hell Kitchen's Head Chef, Marco (although Marco could seriously do with a shave)?

-- Edited by twain2country on Tuesday 21st of April 2009 05:09:32 PM

PurplePeopleEater · Guru

Marco looks like one of the Three Stooges.

kelc317 · Guru

Someone else made the same comparison to,he looks like he could be Fred's older brother.As far as the cult thing i doubt it. Shania as always said she was a very private person and from what i read when she was at the height of her career the tabloids were brutal on her.Its really got to suck to be followed around and have people constantly taking your picture and asking for autographs.She also said in a interview that in Switzerland people would just say hi or nod.Here in North America people would jump up and down and scream her name.I guess we are just a lot more celebrity crazy over here.

PurplePeopleEater · Guru

I guess the Swiss are so busy counting their money they don't have time to watch TV or listen to the radio.

kelc317 · Guru

I guess, but i know some parts of Europe are like us.

Tonto · Guru

PurplePeopleEater wrote:

Most folks who follow cult beliefs do not go at it whole hog - especially those who are as successful and famous as Shania and Mutt - they pick and choose and take what works for them. I do not believe either of them ever were under mind control - that is poppy**** as are most of the things said by the individual you mentioned.

Appearantly she is picking and choosing what she wants to adhere to as abstinence from premarital sex is one of the main beliefs and she is now supposedly with Fred. Appearantly maybe Mutt wasn't very strict on this issue either. Couldn't stick that rule by normal standards and regular wedding vows.
I'm sure Shania hates all the negative stuff everyone writes about her as I think she is way more sensitive then she lets on to the world or she could not write the things that she does.
Warmset regards as always,
Tonto

STF1 · Senior Member

I find even the most religious ppl pick and choose the aspects of their religion they want to promote or ignore. Sex before marriage for example, how many Christians actually stand by that rule yet will condemn everybody else for not doing certain things which are far less set in stone. It really bugs me these double standards, yet Shania never pushes her beliefs onto anybody, that is another thing I admire about her, her religion, vegetarianism, non-alcohol clean living-ism...she has her own standards and doesnt not use her fame to push these onto ppl.

-- Edited by STF1 on Wednesday 22nd of April 2009 11:15:46 AM

Tonto · Guru

Yes you are right our society in general is full of double standards and I to admire that Shania only speaks of things when asked directly so as not to offend or seem to be promoting her own personal beliefs and pushing them on others. She offers information only if asked and does so in a way that isn't in any way self serving. Another admirable quality to add to the huge list right. Just pointing it out because everyone was making such a big deal about the absinence issue in her marriage. According to descriptions that I have read the beliefs of Sant Matt are very similiar to the Bible. Just my opinion and thoughts not set in stone.

Warmest regards as always,
Tonto

misskiwi · Veteran Member

Mind control like anything else has its level of severity. Obviously Shania and Mutt aren't going to be as deep into it like the freaks you see on the news living in compounds. The gurus want them to be coherent enough to work and bring them money. Scientology is mind control too and its followers are seemingly normal.

misskiwi · Veteran Member

But whatever the case if Shania is happy, I'm happy for her. Those were my two cents on the matter. And yes Freddie is freaky.

kelc317 · Guru

Speaking of religion,remember those priest that were molesting those kids?Now i know there are always some bad apples in any group of people, but the way the church just covered it up that was a disgrace. Look at the way Scientology changed Tom Cruise.That interview he did where he criticized Brook Shields for taking drugs for postpartum depression,he made a jerk out of himself.Im not religious but i hate it when people try to ram it down others throats.

misskiwi · Veteran Member

Tom did behave like a jerk. He could've taked to Brooke in private. At least Shania hasn't become the spokesperson for Sant Mat unlike Madonna and her Kabbalah. Don't get me started on her...

misskiwi · Veteran Member

I did forget to say that after those priests were outed for child abuse I have become more and more leery of religion.

KatieIsKevysNo1Fan · Senior Member

This is an Interesting Topic. It's my belief that every one of us is mind-controlled to a certain extent. Through our Education programmes, Culture and Media. We're constantly bombarded with Information and then made to feel if we don't go along with and accept said Information we will be Ostracised-Out cast and ridiculed. So we are controlled to only think in a certain way. Take Political correctness for example or the doctrines of Religion.
Even when we consider Ourselves as atheist or non-religious we do often Un-Intentionally or without awareness still do follow a particular doctrine. So yeah Just like Shania selecting what to adhere too, to promise to remain Married and faithful to only one person Until Death Is to follow a religious Doctrine.
It may have many good, positive results but it is Control nonetheless!
Our Governments Introduce and Implement new Laws. The People don't get a say whether we want them or not, and we are made to follow said laws---once again Controlled!

Mind-control is a part of our every day lives, whether we believe it to be so or not.

kelc317 · Guru

Well in fairness to Tom Cruise he did go to Brooks home and apologize for the remarks,but he did look like a jerk.I guess learning could be described as a form of mind-control.

misskiwi · Veteran Member

You all have great points. However if we did not learn how to behave we'd be like animals. Despite Tom's strange ways he seems like a good father and I respect that about him.

kelc317 · Guru

Haven't all his movies bombed since he did that interview and jumped around on opray's couch.

misskiwi · Veteran Member

Yeah thats true. Maybe the studios see him as a risk now.

kelc317 · Guru

I think when celebrities do things that make people dislike them it can cost them at the box office or record sales.or they could just be crappy movies.