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IS SHANIA A SINGER OR AN ENTERTAINER ??


With the Carrie Underwood posting starting to take forever to scroll to bottom I thought it might be an idea to start a fresh post but kinda stay in the same frame of discussion. I have to admit I am somewhat nervous throwing this out there but it is REALLY how I feel.

I will begin by saying that for me Shania is in another league in country music from my viewpoint. Nobody even close.. But why??.... I have seen her live twice but I have also seen Martina,LeAnn,but never Faith. Personally in no way do I feel Shania can come close to holding her own with Martina ,LeAnn or Faith(voice wise).. When you hear them do their POWER songs it is a different league TOTALLY.. Having said that, did they entertain me...NOPE... To me Shania's incredible strength is in her song writing(best hook songs in the industry),and her untouchable abitity to entertain on stage. I have to admit, I have never heard ANYONE who has ANY ability to sing ANY  of her music so maybe I am being to hard on her voice but I firmly hold my position that she can not hold her own with Martina/LeAnn or Faith. Their "power" songs put them in another league but somewhat boring. I suppose you could add  Ms Dion in that mix as well, but do I have any intrest in her carreer. NOPE.... As I said, nobody is in the same ballpark as Shania but it is not for her voice.. Can she sing? 100 percent YES (especially the love songs) but not in their league...Bob

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You're absolutely right when you say that Shania's biggest strength is probably her songwriting.  She has this amazing talent that most artists don't have. 

I personally LOVE Shania, Martina, and Faith.  I find them all entertaining.  I have never seen Martina in concert, but I have seen Faith in concert twice.  And I was impressed! 



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Hey Walter... As I said, I am no longer scrolling down that Carrie posting but have been reading your replys on faith.. I know you like to play the devil role but it is REALLY hard to believe that you are not tuned into the fact that Faith is one of the biggest country stars of all time. Maybe google her track record/CD sales/awards etc and maybe "youtube" that incredible track of hers from the movie Pearl Harbour.....Now THAT is a power song....Bob

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I know!!!  Faith did an outstanding job on "There You'll Be."   She is amazing.. gotta go now! 

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Walter lives in his own little world. He's occasionally amusing, but not much else.

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I totally agree! Shania's an awesome singer but her performances blow everyone else outta the water!  headbang.gif

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I totally agree! Shania's an awesome singer but her performances blow everyone else outta the water!  headbang.gif




I have to agree!  She an awesome singer and performer!



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Bob wrote:

Hey Walter... As I said, I am no longer scrolling down that Carrie posting but have been reading your replys on faith.. I know you like to play the devil role but it is REALLY hard to believe that you are not tuned into the fact that Faith is one of the biggest country stars of all time. Maybe google her track record/CD sales/awards etc and maybe "youtube" that incredible track of hers from the movie Pearl Harbour.....Now THAT is a power song....Bob


bob,   get a reality check. Faith hill tags along with husband on tours and duets and her latest GH cd hasn't even gone platinum.
Shania has sold more with just one cd than Faith has in her whole career lmao!!!!






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Walter lives in his own little world. He's occasionally amusing, but not much else.




I could say the same about your laughable posts lol!!!!
Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I am wrong.Did it ever cross your mind that I am 100% correct and you are wrong lol!!!
YOu are good for a laugh or two.



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I know!!!  Faith did an outstanding job on "There You'll Be."   She is amazing.. gotta go now! 




Then go to her fan message board and tell her if she still has a message board.
Her latest GH cd released last years hasn't even gone platinum.
Even the smallest of stars can get a cd to go platinum.



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The latest sexiest poll I could find was from Country Weekly Magazine...Here it goes... It noted Faith was the runaway winner(#1) followed by in this exact order 2...Sara...3 Carrie  4..Martina  5 SHANIA  6 Jennifer  7 Terri  8 Miranda  9 Trisha  10-Reba and Gretchen.....   Now as far as the men.... That is not for me to post. I will let you ladies post that one....But PLEASE don't tell me Kenny...He is into his boat and beachs...Not relations..... Getting back to the gals this is SO EASY FOR ME BUT ONLY MY TOP 5......1/Sara Evans(by far)  2/Faith Hill   3/Shania  4/Jennifer Nettles  5/ Reba..... Actually being honest...All  of them would scare the hell out of me...If you know what I mean.....Bob

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Countryweekly? lmao!!!!
Who cares about a lame magazine like that says.
Shania is always voted higher on FHM and maxums sexiest woman polls in the past.
Get a life bob, and stop with all of these stupid threads about other lame lesser acts.
If you think someone is sexier than Shania then go to their message board and tell them.but nobody can compete with Shania's total package of a face and body and charisma.
Nobody is even in her league.
And if you think someone is sexier then go tell them on their message board.

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About countryweekly stupid polls, they do them every year and the list changes all the time.
The fact that Shania has been out of the limelight for so long and stil made top 5 on a magazine that hates her is very impressive.
Shania has been voted #1 sexiest on many magazines around the world.

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The latest sexiest poll I could find was from Country Weekly Magazine...Here it goes... It noted Faith was the runaway winner(#1) followed by in this exact order 2...Sara...3 Carrie 4..Martina 5 SHANIA 6 Jennifer 7 Terri 8 Miranda 9 Trisha 10-Reba and Gretchen..... Now as far as the men.... That is not for me to post. I will let you ladies post that one....But PLEASE don't tell me Kenny...He is into his boat and beachs...Not relations..... Getting back to the gals this is SO EASY FOR ME BUT ONLY MY TOP 5......1/Sara Evans(by far) 2/Faith Hill 3/Shania 4/Jennifer Nettles 5/ Reba..... Actually being honest...All of them would scare the hell out of me...If you know what I mean.....Bob




 I was actually surprised that Faith made the top spot, but when you have so many gorgeous women, it's quite tough to catagorize them.   They are all so very appealing in so many different ways. Country music sure is blessed with many lovely ladies, from Faith to Shania to Carrie to Martina, and on and on.



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Hey Walter..... I can only speak for myself here but you have been running your act WAY to long... Really easy to figure out.... Someone makes a pro Shania post and you will call her unfaithful,lazy,a joke etc. The flip side of the coin is if anyone says anything against her like the fact that Sara Evans might be hotter(which in my opinion she is...BY FAR) then you go on the attack mode defending her..... Will the real Walter please stand up.... I would suggest that you are in fact totally obsessed with Shania as you have accused of by my many many many people. The fact that is that you know NOTHING about Country music(your hard to believe comment about..Who is Gretchen yesterday proved that)... Have to admit...I am really starting to buy into the  obsessed theory..... You can blast me but it will do no good...If you want to rant...Go for it...I will certainly read it but there will be no further reply on this issue by me)....Before you reply though I would ask you to review your activity on this site.. If you can site examples of you supporting ANY member on ANYTHING(either pro or anti) I would love to know when..... Walter...You know me well enough to know I won't get into the back and forward battle thing so type away....OVER AND OUT FOR ME ON THIS ONE.... Bob

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Hey Up... Ya I know what you mean... Thank goodness for the music video. It is hard to even imagine Shania without them. You know what I just can not figure out though?....Natalie Maines(dixie chicks)... Can't put my finger on it but when I watch her on stage, I can't take my eyes off her... On this one I could really understand someone saying   "Bob...Buy some glasses"   but there is something about her... The fact that other than Shania I listen to The Chicks more than anyone might have something to do with it though...LOVE there sound and songs...Bob

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Hey Walter..... I can only speak for myself here but you have been running your act WAY to long... Really easy to figure out.... Someone makes a pro Shania post and you will call her unfaithful,lazy,a joke etc. The flip side of the coin is if anyone says anything against her like the fact that Sara Evans might be hotter(which in my opinion she is...BY FAR) then you go on the attack mode defending her..... Will the real Walter please stand up.... I would suggest that you are in fact totally obsessed with Shania as you have accused of by my many many many people. The fact that is that you know NOTHING about Country music(your hard to believe comment about..Who is Gretchen yesterday proved that)... Have to admit...I am really starting to buy into the  obsessed theory..... You can blast me but it will do no good...If you want to rant...Go for it...I will certainly read it but there will be no further reply on this issue by me)....Before you reply though I would ask you to review your activity on this site.. If you can site examples of you supporting ANY member on ANYTHING(either pro or anti) I would love to know when..... Walter...You know me well enough to know I won't get into the back and forward battle thing so type away....OVER AND OUT FOR ME ON THIS ONE.... Bob



You are the one making absurd and delusional threads and just the fact that you say Sarah Evans is  far hotter than Shania proves my point that you are here only to start fights. Hate to break it to you but your opinion is in the vast minority as Shania has been voted in magazines in mainstream around the world as one of the top 10 sexiest woman in entertainment.
And just because I don't know who the  heck a country act like this Gretchen person is doesn' t mean I  know nothing about country music.
It is  happens that my favorite artist is the biggest selling country female of alltime known worldwide and all these others acts you name are irrelevant to me since I don't spend time on little country stations to hear them.
so you can go on and start more fights and threads since I know your purpose is to start fights. Still laughing at your Sarah Evans comment lmao!!!! You can have that farm girl lol!!!



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Hey Up... Ya I know what you mean... Thank goodness for the music video. It is hard to even imagine Shania without them. You know what I just can not figure out though?....Natalie Maines(dixie chicks)... Can't put my finger on it but when I watch her on stage, I can't take my eyes off her... On this one I could really understand someone saying   "Bob...Buy some glasses"   but there is something about her... The fact that other than Shania I listen to The Chicks more than anyone might have something to do with it though...LOVE there sound and songs...Bob




Hard to imagine Shania without them? lmao!!!! Another absurd comment meant to start a fight.
And what does that delusional statement mean?
Seriously bob, you  need to take a break and go back to the farm and milk your cows and listen to your local country station lol!!!



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Sara is definitely a hottie. She looked great during her Dancing With the Stars run, even though she was going through alot of familiy turmoil at the time. I believe Martina and Leann Rimes appeared on Dancing With the Stars as musical performers. As did Shania, though she appeared on the British version rather than the American version. Ok now I'm going off on a Dancing With the Stars tangent. Anyway, yes, Sara is gorgeous! I'm not much of a Natalie Maines fan personally, but to each their own!

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Hey Up... I know what you mean about Natalie Maines...Kind of like yogurt..You love it or hate it. Having said that...5 grammys in one night...WOW

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Sara is definitely a hottie. She looked great during her Dancing With the Stars run, even though she was going through alot of familiy turmoil at the time. I believe Martina and Leann Rimes appeared on Dancing With the Stars as musical performers. As did Shania, though she appeared on the British version rather than the American version. Ok now I'm going off on a Dancing With the Stars tangent. Anyway, yes, Sara is gorgeous! I'm not much of a Natalie Maines fan personally, but to each their own!



I will buy you a pair of glasses for your 14th birthday lol!!!
You must  have pretty  low standards.
Shania is the only one who is known worldwide and considered sexy of those you  have mentioned in this whole thread.

Yeah, like you said, to each his own and if you think Evans is attractive then good for you lol!!!!

CMT's sexiest woman countdown, guess who is #1? lol!!!
Shania is #1 and nobody is even in her league.



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I LOVE Sara Evans.  She's awesome!

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I found the thread about Shania being a performer vs singer.interesting. I am a fan of Martina, Faith, Carrie and Reba and they are great vocalists. However, they were never touched with a good dose of star dust as Shania has been. There is a real charisma to Shania that draws people to her. True, she is not as vocally athletic as these other singers but she does have a distinct, unique voice that is really easy on the ears. She has a stage presence as well that the others do not have. Don't get me wrong Faith, Martina are great live. Carrie is probably great live too yet they don't hold a candle to Shania. I can only attribute this to the whopping dose of stardust she has been given. You either have it or you don't and she definately has it. I personally cannot wait for her next cd. No doubt it will be great. I recall reading an article that basically it was felt that Dolly would not have a long career because vocally she was weak when compared to the other women that were recording then. Look at her now. She has enjoyed great longevity and she is simply known as "Dolly".

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WELL SAID LULU....."AS USUAL"....especially the dolly comment... You are right .A purist would say...."that woman can't sing" but having said that, look what Dolly did... I know what you mean about Shania's voice .It just has a special sound..But she is all low register and very little high end and doesn't have the power. Again,I love her slow stuff but it is all low register. Shania is the greatest for what she brings but lets face it folks...Shania would not even have made the short list to step into the Titanic role and be asked to blast it out with power like Ms Dion was asked to... Having said that ,am I a fan of hers ? NOPE....Do I love Shania...YEP   Anyhow.... Got to run and milk them cows (eh???)....".Come and listen to my story about a man mame Jed"....Catchy little tune(eh???).... Bob

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THEY WOULD HAVE THROWN SHANIA OFF THE TITANIC


I think I need to explain my point in a totally different way... As I have said before to me NOBODY tops Shania in my books.. I have said though, that it is because she is a TRUE entertainer that makes her so special  ... I mean..."Don't freak out until you know the facts...Relax Max.... I mean how the H do they come up with this stuff. Throw in great looks,great personality,great outfits, over the top band, and of course Mutt... Well how do you compete against that.

NOW.... On the same note Cindy(my wife) bought me for christmas the double DVD...Eagles Live in Melbourne... It is without a doubt one of the greatest live concerts(3 hours) that I have EVER seen... BUT...Here is my point... Yes..Glenn Frey was great and of course Don Henley as they sing of course pretty much all of the Eagles smash hits... Having said that if you do rent of buy it watch for Joe Walsh... This guy to me TOTALLY steals the show...WHY?  Because he is an ENTERTAINER... For 3 hours he never stops with his crazy antics.wild expressions,running all over the stage,,over the top nutty outfits...  JOE..Stole the show but he was not the"star" per say.... Bottom line... HE ENTERTAINS (Frey and Henley)   DON'T....Shania of course not only entertains but is also the main act...Put it all together and you have what I love..... Just don't let her audition for the Titanic role... They would have thrown her overboard real quick...Bob

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RE: IS SHANIA A SINGER OR AN ENTERTAINER ??


I say Shania should be described as the total package or complete package. She can sing and entertain like no other. I personally feel that "powerhouse" voices are not the only voice considered "good" or appealing. Shania in the past has been able to hold her own fairly well. Shania has a sweet blend of style and vocal skill. She has a unique vocal style that when you see others trying to cover her, it shows that it is not as easy to sing a Shania song quite like her as some think. She also is an amazing songwriter with many meaningful subjects, messages, and timeless appeal. Shania also gives each song its own personality and emotion when she delivers it.  That's skill.  She also has this aura around her that is very pleasing and her stage presence is electrifying and high energy. She also plays and has a whole list of features that makes her what she is. What can't she do, lol?

Simple awesome.

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I found the thread about Shania being a performer vs singer.interesting. I am a fan of Martina, Faith, Carrie and Reba and they are great vocalists. However, they were never touched with a good dose of star dust as Shania has been. There is a real charisma to Shania that draws people to her. True, she is not as vocally athletic as these other singers but she does have a distinct, unique voice that is really easy on the ears. She has a stage presence as well that the others do not have. Don't get me wrong Faith, Martina are great live. Carrie is probably great live too yet they don't hold a candle to Shania. I can only attribute this to the whopping dose of stardust she has been given. You either have it or you don't and she definately has it. I personally cannot wait for her next cd. No doubt it will be great. I recall reading an article that basically it was felt that Dolly would not have a long career because vocally she was weak when compared to the other women that were recording then. Look at her now. She has enjoyed great longevity and she is simply known as "Dolly".



Yup.  Very true.  I guess we could describe it as having the "IT" factor.  Shania's got it.

 



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Actually you are pretty much right on I feel.. I agree totally that she has her own special sound and that noboby seems to be able to perform her stuff. I guess my point was more that even with a "good" voice she still is able to outsell the likes of "angel" voices like Martina/LeAnn combined.. Bob



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But that too is the whole thing in my opinion.  Martina and LeAnn are "powerhouse" and if you are into raising the roof off, up to the rafters, screaming or whatever other way to describe it, that's fine, but to me angelic voices come from those like Shania, Alison, and Dolly.  When angels sing, it will be more like in these sweet and tender vocal areas.  Something with a lot of heart, personality and emotion, not so much lung capacity.  As well, it's a subjective matter of opinion. 

It is difficult to mimic Shania's singing ability and style, that has been proven with karaoke as well as these programs on TV when someone attempts covering a Shania song.  It burns me when I see critics attempt to discredit Shania's vocal abilities.  What do they know anyway, lol?

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Ya...I am soft I suppose on this issue.. I guess I would say ..I love her voice but but would not refer to her as great singer.. I know that doesn't make sense. I have had this discussion with my wife... She will say...OK Bob-Who's voice do you like to listen to??-Answer Shania... Her response...So that means you think Shania is the better singer.   Answer from me-NO......I know I am not making sense but I am not great with words like you.... Anyhow... FUN...Bob

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I get what you're saying.  I've heard that from others.

Like I say, it's a subjective matter of opinion, even Shania will say she's not the best vocalist, but I say who are you kidding, lol?  She's too humble and modest.  As I described earlier, it all just makes something uniquely special in my book that no one else can mimic or recreate.  Like heavenly honey.  I'd prefer Shania over anyone any day of the week.

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Do you guys only listen to country music? You need to open up your ears and be more open minded to other genres. You'll find country singers on the whole tend to be vocally limited, especially the males. I guess that's why Shania is so popular with non country fans, she doesn't really sound or look like those other country singers. I'm just glad that she's left that very limited and backward thinking genre of music.

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Hey Timmins lover.... Man if you only knew how SO MUCH that comment does not apply to me.... If you would like a running list of my CD's and concerts attended I would LOVE to update you... Actually the list is SO long that it might be a bit  much  for even the OPEN section for forums... If you are intrested I will be more than happy to send you a "PRIVATE MESSAGE".... Bob

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No worries Bob! I was just playing devil's advocate and just testing the water like Walter does. I saw alot of members talking about country stars and comparing them with Shania and I guess I felt a bit left out of the conversation living over here in the UK.

You must remember over here country is not that cool and it is the main reason Shania is marketed as pop over here. I actually quite like the country that I have seeked out for myself online and find it a change fron the stuff I hear on the radio over here.

Having said all that, I know Shania has been treated harshly by Nashville and the country music industry and I do wonder if she really wants to try to return to her roots with her next album.

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I listen to main country (90%). Some classic rock, oldies, and whatnot. None of the modern stuff outside country. It is all bland forgettable flavor of the month stuff. Rock and their gravel vocal tones, no thanks, and of course none of the pop tarts that exist today.

Country music is a special genre and its unique family. I like it that way and I don't care when people don't like it or find it appealing or can't appreciate it.

Yes, Shania expanding her horizons and marketing herself mainly as pop overseas is in a way being a sellout and kicking down the people who put her on the map, but it's not as bad as some critics make it out to be. She wants to make music for all people. It's not completely fair but I've been able to live with that. It's nice to see versatility and multifaceted abilities and talents.

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Hey Timmins Lover.... I understand totally and your point was an exellent one. There is ALOT more to music than country... Way to push the buttons though. This site really needs thought provoking posts... Yours was an exellent example of it... Bob

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WOW....Imagine how some on the site today would handle this stuff...The couldn't...Bob



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